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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jul 3, 2007 16:55:15 GMT -5
Didn't know where else to put this....
My uncle who is supposed to appear in the movie that I was talking about was found in his home dead today. I’m in a state of shock right now. There was never any indication that he’d pass away, at least for health reasons. We don’t know if it was foul play, suicide or a natural cause. Maybe he choked on something? We won’t know more until an autopsy is done. I have my suspicions that he may have overdosed or something. Whether on purpose or not we may never know.
Then there’s also this crazy woman that he’d recently met and was spending time with. She’s nowhere to be found. She was the last person to be with him in person. He had been arguing with her according to my aunt (his sister) that lives next door. None of us trust this girl. We just don’t know what to think. According to the police there’s no reason, yet anyway, to suspect murder.
The last time I talked to him he said that he was going to Las Vegas with her. That’s why when my aunt hadn’t seen him in a while we didn’t suspect anything right away. He has taken off without telling anyone before. But the cats began meowing so finally my mom and aunt broke in. That’s when he was found. He’d been in there for weeks and there wasn’t much left of him.
The strangest part was the positioning of his body. His upper body was on the floor while his legs were still on the bed. That doesn’t sound right to me. I don’t mourn well. I didn’t cry at first until I began to really think about it. After it set in. I talked to him probably more than anyone. We had a lot in common. Now he's gone...
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jul 3, 2007 18:58:20 GMT -5
KNOWTHIS, this is very sad!! I am so sorry, and I hope you are OK. We have been through such things with Theta's sister in a very mysterious situation. Was he your dad's brother?
Write us anytime. I'm not your Uncle, but I can stand in if you need me.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jul 4, 2007 16:27:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the condolences. I may take you up on your offer at some point. I’m still in a fog over this whole deal. I haven’t quite accepted it yet. The only way that I can describe it is when your power goes out but you still feel the need to flip your light switches on or try to turn on the TV out of habit. You know that it isn’t going to work but subconsciously you’re so used to it being available to you. I still feel like he should still be around even though I know better. We both used to listen to Coast To Coast Am and talk about it all night on the phone. When the show came on last night it really hit me that those days are now over. I got so sad.
The coroner has said today what I had figured all along. Because of the decomposition of the body the true cause of death my never be determined. Right now they’re ruling it a heart attack. They are going to run tests on his body for drugs too. Before any conclusions are reached however the wild card is still this crazy woman that apparently had a history with the police because they knew exactly who she was. She’s still missing in action. The doors were all locked though so unless she had a key, she couldn’t have been the last one to leave the house after doing whatever she might’ve done to him. She told us that she used to be a police officer and that turned out to be a lie according to the police. I believe she may have been a schizophrenic. My uncle was lonely I guess and tolerated her for company.
He put on a happy, jovial front but inside I that know he was hurting. He didn’t have much going for him in his life. He didn’t have any money and his house was terribly run down. I hope that he’s happier now. It’s going to be strange to see him in that movie if they decide to use the clip. I’m sure they will because they spent several hours filming it with retakes. Our last memory of him might be on the big screen as if he was giving us something to remember him by. An unexpected kind of commemoration.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jul 4, 2007 16:30:32 GMT -5
Oh, and it was my mom's brother btw.
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Post by Thetaloops on Jul 5, 2007 9:37:28 GMT -5
KnowThis,
I'm so sorry to hear about your Uncle. I understand your loss. As swamp mentioned we lost my sister from a drug overdose back in 1985. She was a very intelligent and attractive, but I guess had an addictive personality. I wish I had her to talk to sometime now more than ever.
Swamp and I made a big change in our life to come back to NJ from CA when this happened. We were brought in closer to our other family members. It's hard to say what might have happened but at least we know we are closer to my parents and brothers.
Try to remember the good things and learn from whatever errors he may have made. That is all we can do. Unfortunately we can't turn back the hands of time.
Please stay in touch as you have been a loyal friend for many years and our thoughts are with you.
Love,
Theta
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Post by chickenlittle on Jul 6, 2007 3:22:21 GMT -5
My thoughts are with you KT as I am sure the others all feel the same way at gastro.
Very sad indeed,and in a way as you say you will always have him immortalized through the film piece with him in it.
I hope that you can get the answers that you need.
Take care and know that we are all thinking of you at this sad time.
chicky
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jul 7, 2007 0:12:52 GMT -5
Theta and chick. Thanks so much for the kind-hearted comments. I’m sorry about what happened to your sister Theta. As I was telling Swampgas, it seems that tragedy strikes us all. Not that it’s comforting but at least we know that we’re not alone. Chick, we're all looking forward to remembering him on the silver screen.
Everyone has been so kind to me about this. I’ve had many offers to talk about it from many people that I’ve never even met in person. The overwhelming kindness and sympathy has really helped to restore my faith in humanity.
Here's some of what I wrote about the incident yesterday....
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We're not sure if anything of my uncle's was missing. He was something of a shut-in and kept to himself mostly so no one really has an inventory of his belongings. I’ve been trying to determine a possible motive for this potential crime but I suppose that craziness is a motivation in itself? It’s nearly impossible to vicariously peer out in to the world from the eyes of the insane. How can one ever truly decode the incomprehensible thoughts of an unstable, irrational mind without being equally irrational and unstable yourself?
Much of his life was a mystery because he was a bit of a nomad and a loner. In some ways I related to him in that way, at least the loner part. I probably got to know more about him than anyone else in the family over the past decade though. We often engaged in long, deep conversations about obscure topics. He was something of an “expert” in spirituality and talked extensively about the after-life and the sprit plane. He loved to educate people about his beliefs.
We don't know enough yet to declare foul play and may never know. He may have had a heart attack and laid on the floor to elevate his feet to redirect blood flow for circulation.
But here’s the clincher. And it’s a big one. This crazy woman Deborah showed up today at my uncle’s house and spoke with my aunt. She told my aunt that the police believe that she had something to do with it. She went on to explain that he committed suicide. She said that he told her that he’d end his life if she ever left him and there should be a suicide note in his room. I’ve heard nothing about a note ever being recovered. She seems to have a guilty conscious and is looking for an excuse. But again, the autopsy may not prove anything either way. His body may have been found in that strange position because she tried to move him and gave up because he was too heavy? The mere possibility turns sadness to anger within me. We may never find closure for this unsolved mystery. She’s obviously not a credible person though so who knows how much her words can be trusted? This riddle may never be cracked.
My uncle was no well known judge or politician so it seems that the police aren’t altogether interested in really delving too deep in to this investigation. You know how that goes.
I don’t believe that he would’ve killed himself over a girl, and certainly not over her. My dad said that he had some very attractive girls growing up and he was never devastated by break-ups. It’s not as if this woman was something special. Hardly…..
He had told me once that he thought the “relationship’ was winding down and he mentioned it casually, not as if broken-hearted at all. Like parting ways with an old pair of shoes. Again, he chose to spend a lot of time alone so he wasn’t the type that couldn’t live without another. He didn’t have a co-dependant type personality. Besides, he didn’t know her for very long so how could he have become so attached so soon? Especially considering how she treated him. None of it adds up.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jul 7, 2007 0:15:18 GMT -5
Comments as of today....
I’m feeling somewhat better about this now. I’m beginning t accept it. It’s not as if I have a choice.
I also found out that he had a sleeping bag laid out on the floor where he was laying. I wasn’t told this before. That makes it seem that he meant to be there and was able to take the time to do it so he must’ve sensed trouble early. I don’t believe that the psycho woman would’ve had the presence of mind to set him up that way to avoid suspicions. This still doesn’t change the possibility that he was poisoned.
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