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Post by Mech on Apr 11, 2008 8:54:52 GMT -5
The fall of the USA: Alex jones Alex talks about the CFR/IMF/UN Nexus and the plan to nuke US sovereignty and diving the majority into poverty through legislation, global warming taxes etc. Video www.infowars.com/?p=1437Brilliant !!!!
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Post by chickenlittle on Apr 11, 2008 13:31:00 GMT -5
Hey this M.Night movie I spoke of in the other thread,the clips are about the fact that people are dead everywhere. It kind of co-incides with Alexs' clips of the EndGame,well a little. Anyhow,the clip I saw was : A girl telling her family that she looked out the window and everyone around her everywhere were dead,she tells the family something like" it must be moving your way".
I don't know,it is almost like the art sometimes seems to know in advance and place some of these Happenings in our minds prior to a catastrophic event.Manmade ............of course.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Apr 12, 2008 8:53:56 GMT -5
What about:
Zionist Control of Media and US Foreign policy
out of control energy prices
Exxon Mobil phony Global Warming "Skepticism" funding
FDA fronting for pharmaceuticals
GMO crops
chemtrails
drugs in water supply
alcohol consumption at all time high
supression of Green Technology
Propaganda to discredit the 60s and antiwar
Right Wing propaganda to discredit woman's rights
Media's infatuation with McCain and no criticism
Propaganda to discredit vitamins and vegetarians
Propaganda to further osolate gays and lesbians
This is real and happening right now, and to me paying a little bit more to bring in Green Technology is OK, but it seems like Alex Jones and other Right Wingers wants us paying attention to things that are largely theoretical, and then we keep our eyes off of what Corporatism is actually doing, from my list above.
Like I said, Alex, Rense, Rivero, etc, should stick with 9/11 truth, Gun Control, and the Police State. Anything else I simply switch him and the others like him off. They simply do not not know what they are talking about.
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Post by Mech on Apr 12, 2008 9:01:09 GMT -5
Ummmmm....Alex was not talking about any of the above.
He was talking about the Club of Rome and the CFR's OWN DOCUMENTS AND BOOKS....and how Global Warming is going to be USED AGAINST US just like the threat of "terrorism" has been.
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Post by Mech on Apr 12, 2008 9:06:41 GMT -5
I don't know,it is almost like the art sometimes seems to know in advance and place some of these Happenings in our minds prior to a catastrophic event.Manmade ............of course. Personally, I think Global Warming is going to be the new "threat" and all of us aare going to SUFFER as a result of peoples willingness to have a vastly reduced quality of life. To "save the planet" But of course...the people who will decide these new laws will have the same lifestyle theyve always had. It will be...as Alex calls it "New fuedalism and serfdom"
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Post by Swamp Gas on Apr 12, 2008 9:19:47 GMT -5
Ummmmm....Alex was not talking about any of the above. He was talking about the Club of Rome and the CFR's OWN DOCUMENTS AND BOOKS....and how Global Warming is going to be USED AGAINST US just like the threat of "terrorism" has been. Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!! What I said, if you read the damn stuff, is these are more REAL problems, than Alex's paranoia about taking away his Guns and Gas-Guzzling SUV. Green Technology is the "New Threat", but all what I posted is not. yes, we are truly living in Bizarro World. Alex does not know what he is talking about concerning Global Warming. I guess you didn't read the fact that Paul Craig Watson completely spun what the UN scientist said. No matter what is posted, you don't seem to get it, even in the face of evidence that Exxon Mobil and these Right Wingers inherent hatred of hippies and lefties are fueling their pseudo-scientific opinions.
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Post by Mech on Apr 12, 2008 9:46:53 GMT -5
I dont hear Alex talking about a "gas guzzling SUV"...or his guns in the above posted article and video.
Nor do i hear him talking about 'hatred of hippies and lefties".
What he IS talking about is AGAIN.....THE CLUB OF ROME, and THE CFR minutes....talking about how both "terrorism"....and the threat of "global warming" can be USED against wealthier nations to bring their standards of living down.
THAT IS REAL.....not "Paranoia"
Did you even see the video?
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Post by Swamp Gas on Apr 12, 2008 10:08:02 GMT -5
Yes, I saw the video.
Alex Jones, like other Right Wingers are paranoid that the "Hippies and Lefties" will take away his guns and this country's obnoxious obsession with gas guzzling vehicles, and thanks to the nonsense of filthy companies like Exxon and GE, further "Catapult the Propaganda", as Bush says.
Whenever I hear Flat Earth Theories about Global Warming coming from the Right, I immediately switch it off. It is a waste of time to listen to this nonsense. So, when Alex dumps his Right-Wing/Exxon-influenced theories about Global Warming, it makes his other more Sound observations about 9/11 and Police State come into question.
Think I am making this up? read the Progressive Blogs and authors. Alex is disliked because of his Right Wing Corporate ideas, and when I try and defend his 9/11 and police state ideas, they discredit EVERYTHING of his.
Mike Malloy IMO, is much better at conveying 9/11, Police State, and Guns to Progressives, and I thought THAT is what is important to you.
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Post by Mech on Apr 12, 2008 10:12:43 GMT -5
Ok...well....you will know he was right when they come to TAX you for your "carbon footprint".
I know its bullshit.....in fact...much of the global warming hysteria was FUNDED by oil companies.
Pricing the fuels higher will only make them richer....which is happening.
Wait untill the new "carbon taxes" start.
You think America is going down the toilet financially now?
Wait.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Apr 12, 2008 10:26:55 GMT -5
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Apr 12, 2008 11:54:48 GMT -5
Without getting in to another, now unfortunately customary, man-made vs. natural cycle global warming discussion, I have to agree with Swampgas. I e-mailed Alex Jones after watching this video. Not that he’ll listen, but I explained to him that he can’t expect to have much credibility on this issue if he doesn’t at least acknowledge the most basic of facts. It didn’t take me long at all to find the following information on the web. I know that Jones and Watson could find it too, if they actually wanted to. I was literally inundated with information linking oil companies to global warming skeptics. Just the opposite of what Alex Jones had claimed. Why must these facts remain such a big secret? And even worse, why are we being told that the oil companies were originally behind the "hoax" as he had put it? I never find any of this information on Prison Planet, NEVER, and I encourage them to do so regularly so I know that they're aware of it. www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2005/05/some_like_it_hot.html(click link for chart)www.motherjones.com/news/featurex/2005/05/exxon_chart.htmlwww.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ExxonMobil-GlobalWarming-tobacco.htmlScientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil’s Tobacco-like Disinformation Campaign on Global Warming Science Oil Company Spent Nearly $16 Million to Fund Skeptic Groups, Create Confusionthinkprogress.org/2005/06/14/exxon-mobil-hires-ex-official-who-doctored-global-warming-documents/Exxon Hires Ex-Official Who Doctored Global Warming Docs»Now why would an oil company such as Exxon Mobil randomly decide to invent the issue of global warming only to later spend millions upon millions of their precious dollars seeking to undermine it? Why would any fossil fuel based company choose to create a debate over an issue that would inevitably only adversely effect themselves? There's no evidence to support it and on top of that, it defies logic anyway. Not only does the global warming issue mean higher costs due to increased regulations but it also creates a public relations nightmare for oil companies that are largely considered to be the culprits. That’s why they’re going out of their way to fight it, not to support it. That’s why they’re spending big dollars seeking to clean up their image (along with the skeptics). Regardless of what you believe about GW, it really bothers me that Alex Jones and crew absolutely refuse to comply with this reality and I want to know why?
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Post by Mech on Apr 12, 2008 12:03:32 GMT -5
I wouldnt worry about it.
Soon we all will be taxed out of existence for our "carbon footprint"
We will all be at 3rd world level peasantry to "save the planet".
Meanwhile the oil company profits will STILL skyrocket.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Apr 12, 2008 12:08:12 GMT -5
I also take offense to constantly being spoken down to because I value the water that I drink and the air that I breathe. I’m tired of being labeled anti-human of all things because of my concerns. I asked Alex Jones who he thought was responsible for the genetically engineered crops, the nuclear bomb, 9/11, the Holocaust and fluoride in the water etc. that he always complains about. The last time that I checked, you can check off MAN as the cause for all of it. Does this mean that I advocate a reduction of the population through death? NO! It means that I don’t see a problem with stating the truth which is that man has historically a bad habit of endangering himself and others.
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Post by Mech on Apr 12, 2008 12:08:46 GMT -5
Oh...and by the way...for those of you who say that I am "paranoid" or what i speak of (being taxed to death) is speculation.
I have a few reminders.
S2191
Climate security act
and letss not forget the NIGHTMARE Kyoto protocol that the next Pres is almost guaranteed to sighn onto.
Get ready to live like a peasant.
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Post by Mech on Apr 12, 2008 12:09:23 GMT -5
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Post by Mech on Apr 12, 2008 12:09:45 GMT -5
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Post by Mech on Apr 12, 2008 12:13:26 GMT -5
Spoken down to? ? Funny...I dont see it that way... If anything...its ME that has the minority opinion...and for that I am "with Bush"...and the "oil companies". But I never bitch about it.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Apr 12, 2008 12:20:10 GMT -5
I wouldnt worry about it. Soon we all will be taxed out of existence for our "carbon footprint" We will all be at 3rd world level peasantry to "save the planet". Meanwhile the oil company profits will STILL skyrocket. We're already there. I don't even agree with a carbon tax but that's just a drop in the bucket compared to what is already destroying us like outsourcing, unbalanced free trade, the Iraq/Afghanistan war, housing bubble, skyrocketing medical expenses etc. I hear guys like Glenn Beck saying the same thing, “just wait until the carbon tax comes along”. But that has become a right-wing mantra that is being used to avoid discussing all of the other real problems that we have. You'll never hear him say that we're spending too much on the war or defense. Compare those costs to any would be tax and the proportions are staggering. I think that worrying so much about a carbon tax, particularly in light of what’s going on is like aching over a splinter in your toe when you already have an axe buried in your head.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Apr 12, 2008 12:22:42 GMT -5
Spoken down to? ? Funny...I dont see it that way... If anything...its ME that has the minority opinion...and for that I am "with Bush"...and the "oil companies". But I never bitch about it. C’mon, in that video Alex asked what’s wrong with us? You have the minority opinion here at this forum and on just one issue which you insist on bringing up so can't seem to mind it too much.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Apr 12, 2008 12:27:31 GMT -5
I think there should be a voluntary war tax. In other words, that’s where the funding for our future wars should come from. If you want to be a couch cushion war hawk then YOU PAY FOR IT! If the gung ho warmongers don’t foot the bill, we don’t go to war. Plain and simple.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Apr 12, 2008 12:44:38 GMT -5
I understand his point about certain professors and media figures seeking to subvert the environmental movement as a means to promote eugenics. But that doesn’t mean that they represent the vast majority of environmentalists any more than the Pat Robertson junkies out there represent all Christians. Alex Jones is very careful to point out that distinction in terms of Christians seeing as how he considers himself to be one. Why doesn’t he afford that same courtesy to people like myself?
And Alex isn’t so perfect either. I was listening to his old interviews with your pal Charlton Heston who was at the time very pro-Ashcroft. Jones admitted that at the time he was even giving Bush the benefit of the doubt. I can tell you what, I never did.
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