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Post by altitudelou on Nov 25, 2006 21:57:13 GMT -5
Hey, we can make this " Questions from Greece " thread about Geo-Engineering_How's that Wayne ? ( Me first ! ) "Pressure from states building to force government to act on Global Warming" ____________________________________________________________ www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-scotus25nov25,0,6224035.story?page=1&coll=la-home-nation STATES WILL TELL SUPREAM COURT FEDS MUST ACT ON WARMING. By David G. Savage, Times Staff Writer November 25 2006 "WASHINGTON — The polar icecaps are melting, summers growing hotter and hurricanes becoming more powerful, but the Bush administration has insisted it cannot regulate the gases that many believe are responsible. On Wednesday, a coalition of 12 states, led by California and Massachusetts, will try to persuade the Supreme Court that the nation's environmental regulators have the legal authority and responsibility to control greenhouse gas emissions linked to global warming — which many scientists describe as the biggest environmental threat to the planet. It is a rare day when state lawyers travel to Washington hoping to win new powers for the federal government. As David Bookbinder, a Sierra Club lawyer, noted, "How often do federal authorities insist they lack the authority to do something? The administration's approach to another global issue — terrorism — has been to assert broad powers to act at home and abroad. On the environmental front, the administration says, it is studying the problem and "seeking a cooperative international approach to addressing global climate change," Solicitor General Paul Clement wrote in his brief to the court. Putting new limits on motor vehicles and power plants is out of the question, at least for now, he added, saying, "the Environmental Protection Agency lacks authority under the Clean Air Act … to regulate greenhouse gas emissions." The case before the Supreme Court tests that conclusion. It begins with a simple question: Is carbon dioxide an "air pollutant" under the Clean Air Act? The answer may determine not only whether federal regulators must tackle global warming, but also whether California and other states may do so on their own. Four years ago, California adopted stricter rules. The state Legislature declared its intent to "achieve the maximum feasible and cost-effective reduction of greenhouse gas emissions" from motor vehicles. These standards for new cars and trucks are to take effect in 2009. The California way Because of California's notorious smog problem, Congress permitted the Golden State to adopt stricter exhaust standards for cars and trucks under a special provision in the federal air pollution laws of the 1970s. Other states are allowed to follow California's lead, and 10 — from New England to the Pacific Northwest — have plans to do so. "Global warming is a national and international crisis. And even if the federal government won't do anything, many states will," said California Atty. Gen. Bill Lockyer, who filed one of several lawsuits challenging the Bush administration's decision not to act on greenhouse gases. The legality of California's new vehicle emission standards remains in doubt. They must be approved by the EPA. But the agency has yet to do so, mostly because of its view that carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases are not air pollutants under the Clean Air Act. The automakers have sued to block California's rules, citing the EPA's stand. Humans and animals exhale carbon dioxide, and plants absorb it. It is also emitted from tailpipes and smokestacks when fossil fuels are burned. Once in the atmosphere, carbon dioxide absorbs the sun's radiation and traps heat in the atmosphere. This is known as the greenhouse effect. As these greenhouse gases — including methane, nitrous oxide and fluorocarbons — have become more concentrated in the atmosphere, temperatures have increased slowly but steadily. Though some scientists and politicians once dismissed this link, most now acknowledge it. Bush administration lawyers do not discount the importance of global warming, but they argue it is not covered by the Clean Air Act. That measure, they say, targets pollutants, such as ozone, that are dangerous to breathe — not ones that occur in nature and are essentially harmless to breathe, such as carbon dioxide. Disagreeing, the states' lawyers point to the language of the law. It says an air pollutant is "any physical, chemical (or) biological … substance or matter which is emitted … into the ambient air." In their brief to the court, they point out, "Motor vehicles emit the physical and chemical matter carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide and hydro-fluorocarbons into the ambient air." Motor vehicles are the source of about 25% of the nation's greenhouse gas emissions. It says 'shall' Another provision appears to require regulation of such gases. It says the EPA "shall" regulate any pollutant from cars or trucks "which may reasonably be anticipated to endanger public health or welfare." The law defines the public's welfare to include effects on "climate" and "weather." The state lawyers argue that because it is now apparent that greenhouse gases are endangering the public welfare, the EPA must regulate them. Administration and auto industry lawyers say the high court should dismiss the states' lawsuit. They argue that the nation's global warming policy is a political issue to be decided by Congress and the president, not a legal issue to be decided in court. This argument may well appeal to Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., who has said the court should adopt a more modest role and allow politicians to set policies. But environmental activists and the state lawyers were pleasantly surprised in June when the Supreme Court voted to take up the case, Massachusetts vs. EPA, despite the objections of the Bush administration. If the court rules squarely on the question of whether the Clean Air Act regulates greenhouse gases, the stakes will be high for environmentalists, California's regulators and the auto industry. "If we win, it will free California and other states from a legal threat," said Bookbinder, the Sierra Club lawyer. "But if the Supreme Court says the Clean Air Act does not cover climate change, it would be hard for California to say it has the authority to regulate greenhouse gases." If the court rejects the Bush administration's stand, the automakers will be under pressure to produce vehicles that get better gas mileage. The court could also issue a split decision. It could rule that carbon dioxide is an air pollutant under the Clean Air Act, but that the EPA's administrator is free to decide whether to issue new emissions standards for it. In the past, the court has been very reluctant to require an agency to issue new regulations. A split decision would not force the federal agency to regulate greenhouse gases, but it could clear the way for California and the states to do so on their own. Besides Massachusetts and California, the states challenging the Bush administration's policy are Connecticut, Illinois, Maine, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington. They were joined by the cities of New York, Washington and Baltimore, and several environmental groups. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- david.savage@latimes.com
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Post by et in Arcadia ego on Nov 25, 2006 23:31:36 GMT -5
The legality of California's new vehicle emission standards remains in doubt. They must be approved by the EPA. But the agency has yet to do so, mostly because of its view that carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases are not air pollutants under the Clean Air Act. I LOVE that part..
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 25, 2006 23:38:01 GMT -5
Yeah, next thing you know Wayne will be saying that friggen smog is a "good thing", it is pollution isn't it ?
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Post by et in Arcadia ego on Nov 26, 2006 0:11:06 GMT -5
Not if it contains portions of emissions not recognized by the Clean Air Act, come on, Lou..I know you can do better than that..
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 26, 2006 17:29:01 GMT -5
Yes, I can but should I ?
That's a slippery slope, I'm not here to start pissing contest like Wayne does but I don't mind throwing a good dig in once in awhile. (:-}
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Post by et in Arcadia ego on Nov 26, 2006 21:54:00 GMT -5
Me neither.
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Post by socrates on Nov 26, 2006 23:14:34 GMT -5
Hey Arcadia, I came across something very strange somewhat related to chemtrail forums and found on your RI website. From your thread at Rigorous Intuition: 151 La Jolla Drive (Greer, Craddock, and Bearden)posted by Cosmic Cowbell: "... Another interesting connection... is the relationship between one of Greer's "star" witnesses, Clifford Stone (he of 57 different alien races) and Valdemar Valerian (Capt John Grace) AKA Chem11 and the target of "he that shall not be named". It doesn't take a brain surgeon to connect these dots of disinformation, NWO conspiracies, Reptillian soul suckers, the ravings of William Cooper..." 1) Chem11 is not val valerian. This is something that disinfo agents including Reymolds have unsuccessfully tried to pin on him. On the DBS mother nature thread, Uncle Jerky posted this accusation. 2) I have referred to Raymolds as "he who shalt not be named". I borrowed that phrase from Dan Shaugnessy, A Boston Globe sportswriter. He used it to refer to fired Red Sox manager Grady Little, who many believe ruined the 2003 season, gift wrapping it to the N.Y. Yankees by leaving Pedro Martinez in too long. Frankly, I find this coincidence quite odd. I would keep an eye on this Cosmic Cowbell. It wouldn't surprise me if he is a debunker fake like a cy/ Buzzkill/ yukk Ed Smell even perhaps Raymolds himself. Plus, We can only imagine how many fake characters are actually out there on these message boards.
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Post by et in Arcadia ego on Nov 26, 2006 23:21:31 GMT -5
Yes, Socrates, I've crossed blades briefly with this one before at RI a few months ago in a delicate situation I managed to mitigate before he sent an invite to the thread to the Red Dragon..
My inclination is to keep this argument out of RI as RI's WAAYY too important for peripheral discussions to turn it into a chemtrail Monster-Board.
This is how Power corrupts the Innocent into doing it's Will unbidded. It sucks completely, but it happens. I don't think that poster is a Bad Person.
My impression from my last engagement with cowbell is that he's not disinfo, but not in full possession of the facts, and has an abbreviated view of "he that should not be named"(that's a kick-back to our last argument there; at least he's kind enough to leave him out of google..]
But everyone knows if there's a proxy, Jay's sitting behind it, so hello, Jay, I hope this find you well.
Sorta.
Cheers, D
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Post by socrates on Nov 26, 2006 23:32:23 GMT -5
But I think I am the one who called him "he who shalt not be named". Then more cowbell says it matter of fact like it is everyday vernacular. Is this just a strange coincidence or what else is going on here?
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Post by et in Arcadia ego on Nov 26, 2006 23:34:45 GMT -5
But I think I am the one who called him "he who shalt not be named". Nope. Re-read his post. 2nd paragraph: "he that shall not be named" Copy/pasted. My error in not grabbing the text. Cheers, D
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Post by socrates on Nov 26, 2006 23:39:36 GMT -5
I'm saying I- Me, myself, and I started this saying- I am the one and only who was calling Reymolds that. Reymolds reads all our posts here. He called chem11 val valerian in that long winded dumbass DBS thread on mother nature. Cosmic Cowbell is either reynards or someone very close to his schemes.
I have uncovered yet another troll. Am I good or what?
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Post by et in Arcadia ego on Nov 26, 2006 23:56:06 GMT -5
If you feel that strongly, then send Swamp a link and ask if he recognizes a signature in cowbell's post. That's about the best I can do; he has way more experience with that group than I do and can spot things I cannot.
My engagements were with Reynolds directly, and were fortunately brief.
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Post by socrates on Nov 27, 2006 0:03:48 GMT -5
It's not that big a deal.
I'm just saying it's strange how he called chem11 val valerian, and then I googled a bit and saw that Reymolds had said the same thing. This cowbell is obviously reading here and at Megasprayer, hence the "who shalt not be named" reference.
Then I guess we hit the wall and can only speculate whether the person is a troll, a paid troll, or a useful idiot.
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Post by socrates on Nov 27, 2006 0:06:53 GMT -5
But I understand you want to keep the peace and apologize if I have made things at all difficult for you.
I was just getting a bit giddy over exposing a troll.
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Post by et in Arcadia ego on Nov 27, 2006 1:00:14 GMT -5
I was just getting a bit giddy over exposing a troll. One need be cautious in these discussions that their reach has not extended their grasp or you can be sure of Major Fucking Problems occuring.. I'm currently figuring something out. I'll be back.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Nov 28, 2006 14:36:29 GMT -5
Cosmic Cowbell is another disinfo fool. Clear and simple. Somebody is also trying to make Chem11 look bad.
I wonder whether these provocateurs are really just a bunch (or one....Ed/Jason?) of narcissistic, lonely people who get some rush out of all of this attention.
Since the government and it's agents admit to a spraying program, and the concept is being released to the public, then the Real Things no longer are needed. Now ass-wipes like Stewart Brand and Lovelock are coming to the rescue.
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 29, 2006 21:22:00 GMT -5
Love him or hate him, Lovelock does not pull his punches. "Gaia scientist Lovelock predicts planetary wipeout" today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=scienceNews&storyid=2006-11-28T153508Z_01_L28841108_RTRUKOC_0_US-EARTH-FEVER.xml&src=rss&rpc=22...Snippet... "The earth has a fever that could boost temperatures by 8 degrees Celsius making large parts of the surface uninhabitable and threatening billions of peoples' lives, a controversial climate scientist said on Tuesday. James Lovelock, who angered climate scientists with his Gaia theory of a living planet and then alienated environmentalists by backing nuclear power, said a traumatized earth might only be able to support less than a tenth of it's 6 billion people." __________________________________________________ Given this scenario should we be concerned about our Government(s) being involved in programs of population reduction, perhaps the Chemtrail spraying and weather modification is meant to advance Global Warming in which population reduction is a given.
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Post by socrates on Dec 1, 2006 14:40:00 GMT -5
posted by Swampgas: "Cosmic Cowbell is another disinfo fool. Clear and simple. Somebody is also trying to make Chem11 look bad. I wonder whether these provocateurs are really just a bunch (or one....Ed/Jason?) of narcissistic, lonely people who get some rush out of all of this attention..." I think some of them are the lonely trolls getting a rush out of this. These tend to be the Smell/Ed Smells of the world, those who hate liberals, yet are drawn to interact with them. Yet, Rey-molds seems to be making some side cash off of this. Other lesser knowns like a Cosmic Cowbell also seem to be on a payroll. It's like that Star Trek episode you mentioned Swamp, how the bad guys always end up showing their cards. The good guys and gals may be more naive, er trusting, yet there is no insincerity or agenda that can ever be uncovered, and such folks do seem to care how their words come across. Rigorous Intuition seems to be the next place that disinfo creeps will be arriving. Arcadia is now a moderator there. Someone named Soulcore, who created the cartoon I posted on aerosol reports looks ready to get some good chemtrail talk going. And unlike here or at Megasprayer, it is much easier for trolls to slip through the cracks and be less obvious. At Chemtrails and Webfalls, Cowbell is attacking Chem11 yet again. "...Since it's only $17.00 for a 1 oz. bottle (what's your health worth anyways?) with a recommended dosage of 6 drops a day you may want to stock up. But hey, with a $125.00 "Terminator II Zapper", to 'potentiate' your meds, you probably won't have to take so much. It was sure a stroke of luck that Don Croft happened to order a Dr. Clark Zapper, MADE IN YELM WASHINGTON, cause he's been making his own ever since then. Wait a minute....Yelm, Washington? Where have I heard that before...? Oh Yeah....that also just happens to be the worldwide headquarters of The Leading Edge Research Group headed up by Val Valerian AKA Chem 11 AKA ex AFOSI/Disinfo agent Capt. John Grace...." So the chemtrail talk over there is being pushed towards discussion of ufo's and spider webs. It doesn't matter that the use of spider webs as imagery is about webstrands, those incredibly long strands that are showing up, that one can only see when the lighting is in just the right way. I am not looking to discuss chembusters. I don't know if they work. I kind of doubt it. Yet, whether they do or not, the chatter about it fuels the disinfo that those interested in chemtrails are promoting a hoax in pursuit of profits. I think the chembusting ideas could simply be a strawman promoted by "them". Again, even if they do work, it makes the chemtrail awareness movement look like a hoax designed to make money. Now why does Cowturd continue to go after Chem11? I believe it is because he is paid to do so, and that he is yet another plant placed into chemtrail forums in the form of a psy-op. From the same post he made: "... www.trufax.org/books/orderformus.html (order form for Valerians very expensive Matrix books w/ Yelm, WA address. I'm sure you can pick up a "Dr. Clark Zapper" thru them if you ask nicely) "Show me the money" ~ V.V. " So this is the psy-op that many writing about chemtrails are in it for profit. My question is where did this idea originate that Chem11 is Val Valerian? When I went engine searching, all I found was that the comment being made was by he who shalt not be named.
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Post by et in Arcadia ego on Dec 2, 2006 10:18:29 GMT -5
I've resigned as moderator at RI, just for the record.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 2, 2006 13:47:33 GMT -5
I've resigned as moderator at RI, just for the record. Why?
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Post by kola on Dec 2, 2006 14:29:47 GMT -5
I built a Chembuster in May 2006, followed the directions of Don Croft and Andy Scwarm. They did not have any change/effect on chemtrails. I wrote Ken Adachi about my experience with the CB. 4 emails, zero replies. I emailed Andy Scwarm who has his own webpage and sells CB's already made and asked him about my CB's. I questioned on whether I made it wrong or used wrong crystals etc..He became very defensive and argumentive and has dismissed my emails and avoided me altogether..I asked both Adachi and Schwarm to prove to me that these things work and I would fly/drive anywhere where I could perosonally witness a CB "breaking up" chemtrails or dissipating them. Neither responded.
I met a guy(online) named Rick Moors who claims his CB works. He posted a picture of a chemtrail that was "supposedly" being broken up by his CB. I did not see any evidence from his picture. He has invited me to his place in LA to witness these so-called CB's in action...but he should be able to prove it by posting pics or a vid. I am very doubtful CB's have any effect and if Rick's CB was working why are people still reporting tons of chemtrail activity in and around LA?? Croft/Adachi sites ( and Schwarms site) claims these CB's clean an area of 60-75 miles in diameter. I spent approx 200 bucks and 4 hours making one of these things and I have come to the conclusion there are ineffective. I still challenege anyone who can prove these CB's work. A videotape or time laspe pictures could easily be posted for viewing.
Kola
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Post by socrates on Dec 2, 2006 17:16:28 GMT -5
I think that The Seeker, WMM, and Cydoniaquest are the same person. I also think that the fake pilots such as AA767 and others such as Spikey and Mach10 are the same person, perhaps these were actually Yukk/ Ed Smell creations.
I think this fake debunker strategy is operated by a bunch of people on the same payroll. Now that the powers that stink want to bring aerosol mitigations out from the shadows, they have been able to cut back on the operations.
I can understand Arcadia stepping down from RI. It is a big place with a lot of "out there" topics. I think he could have gotten the job done, if he didn't have a family and long work hours to take care of.
As for chembusters, I've said this before, but I believe that even if they do work, which I doubt, they are easy fodder for dismissing the whole topic of aerosol mitigation. And this is what the fakes are up to. They want sincere, inquisitive people to link Chem11 and Will Thomas with obvious hucksters like Don Crafty. At CTC and Carnicoms, they want people to think we are crazy "chemmies" who believe in mind control and population culling as the reasons behind the spraying. At DBS, they want us to think "chemmies" are raging mad tin foilists (Hello Jim Phelps?), while the paid debunkers(Ed Smell, Raynelds) are level-headed.
Then they try to infiltrate here and get us to doubt ourselves. And they have failed every time.
Debunker - Observer, anything to say for yourself? Or are you sick of Swampgas continually making a fool out of you?
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 2, 2006 18:56:06 GMT -5
I think that The Seeker, WMM, and Cydoniaquest are the same person. I also think that the fake pilots such as AA767 and others such as Spikey and Mach10 are the same person, perhaps these were actually Yukk/ Ed Smell creations. theseeker is actually someone from Oklahoma called Gregg. I won't post his last name, even though David and I know who he is, where he lives, and his phone #. Strangely, he warned me about Boomerchick and Lulu at one point. He also was a "chemmie", and was an avid pot head and Rastafarian until he found "Jesus". Haven't been to his site in awhile, but generally he is just a bit mixed up on who he is, but not as devious as Ed Smell and Johnny Spray. He and I actually were civil to each other at one point.
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Post by altitudelou on Dec 2, 2006 19:46:15 GMT -5
Kola wrote,
"sells CB's already made " the key word being "Sells."
Kola,
These guy's are making money off a bastardized version (Their own)of an invention of Dr. wiIhelm Reich that did have effects on weather.
Don't fall for their con games, it's just like the junk e-mails that you get with offers for this and that, 99% of them are worthless rip off's.
You would be far better off to actually read up and study the work of Dr, Wilhelm Reich, it will change your perspective on life (in a good way) considerably.
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Post by et in Arcadia ego on Dec 3, 2006 8:38:06 GMT -5
I've resigned as moderator at RI, just for the record. Why? Socrates was accurate in his guess but there are other reasons as well.
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Post by socrates on Dec 3, 2006 14:33:11 GMT -5
Posted by Swampgas: "the seeker is actually someone from Oklahoma called Gregg. I won't post his last name, even though David and I know who he is, where he lives, and his phone #. Strangely, he warned me about Boomerchick and Lulu at one point. He also was a "chemmie", and was an avid pot head and Rastafarian until he found "Jesus". Haven't been to his site in a while, but generally he is just a bit mixed up on who he is, but not as devious as Ed Smell and Johnny Spray. He and I actually were civil to each other at one point." I will take your word on it Swamp, although I will just add that disinfo agents are real people too with phone #'s, etc.. What is most striking to me about the history of chemtrail forums are how people like LuLu, BC, WMM, and even TS as you have informed us have so easily changed their tunes from believer to debunker. OK, I think now that TS and BC are just confused individuals who enjoyed interacting on the forums. I think the LuLu person was definitely a plant. I think Ed Smell/Smell and R&ynolds are paid to post, with Jay the most likely to be paid. Perhaps Smell is a garden variety troll and not paid, but Jay I sense does receive a paycheck and so do others who produce the more obscure fake characters such as cosmic cowbell, characters who are meant to provide for an "astroturfing" campaign. Phelps, Penrod, Gaiacomm, and other more elaborate creations are paid characters. They are so outrageous in nature as to attempt to make everyone writing on these forums look suspect. Now, there is this Cy-Jason-WMM troll. He might not be paid. He might be the lonely type who was never quite sure what was going on and listened to all sides, yet always wanted to be accepted by the overall forum populations as an "expert". To be (paid) or not to be (paid), that is the question Horatio. On a side note, by chance I went to DBS today and noticed there are a few new posters there really exposing JR. I hadn't gone there in a while, it really is a dump, but by some chance I went back and was amazed at the new developments. From Normal Contrails: Some Sanity J-Vitum showed up and somehow was able to get R%ynolds to admit that "chemtrails" are real. I guess the "cloud phobia" argument is out the window for him as he admitted that "persistent contrails" exist. Then a few pages later "Jeff Reynolds" showed up and took exception to Jay calling Foot Soldier a "bitch". Where's BC now to argue about how Halva is disruptive but that her idol Jay isn't? Halva did make a good point by saying that no one here cares about what is going on over there. We only mention it in passing here and there to show how the disinfo agents operate. But evidently, Jay reads our every words. And now he has exposed himself as the idiot provocateur that he is. I don't recommend that people waste too much time over there, but it is quite humorous to see him admit that "chemtrails" are real. Whoever that J-Vitum is, he did a real solid job outing Jay as the incompetent (paid?) troll he is.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 3, 2006 15:10:56 GMT -5
yeah, Lulu was giving all of our IPs to the Maverick crew and she was a CTC admin, meaning she had the same access as Thermit, Mech, and myself.
It is almost sad, hearing Johnny Spray and Smelly still denying an atmospheric spray program. Personally, I think they are both Rednecks, and hate Progressives/Constitutionalists, and are Freepers at heart. Their breed is dying, and cannot come to grips with that. It reminds me of Bush still saying Iraq is not in civil war, or an Ann Coulter saying there are still WMDs there, even as Kissinger, Negroponte, Baker, you name the Conservative/Neo-Con are saying the opposite.
And yes, those two new posters at DBS are wiping the floor up with the two goons. Poor halva is still wondering which way to go..A full assault on Johnny Spray and Smelly, or a retreat. And where is Boomerchick? Looking for fairies and angels perhaps? Then Reynolds is claiming the new posters are Lou. Of course he would. He thought i was 10 different posters at one time. Even Thetaloops because stinky ass Lulu sent both Theta's and my IPs to them, and since we have 4 computers, all going through a router, the machines would have the same IP, although the DHCP sign was different. Dummies!!!!
Speaking of Penrod. His address in West Caldwell is an empty lot!!!! LOL!! I live 8 miles from there.!!!!
What a sick, sorry bunch. It is not even entertaining anymore, like looking at JR's guts in that picture. You would think that a life threatening disease would humble him a bit. But he will go down, spewing venom, irrationality, and Right-Wing Insanity. His concubine/groupie, Smell/Smelly then posts as WMM to try and counter. This is truly Bizarro World.
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Post by socrates on Dec 3, 2006 16:54:37 GMT -5
posted by Swamp:
"...Speaking of Penrod. His address in West Caldwell is an empty lot!!!! LOL!! I live 8 miles from there.!!!!"
The Penrod, while not mightier than the sword, seems to fall into the Phelps category, as lame attempts to discredit chemtrail forums. Their posts, while claiming that "chemtrails" are real, were so extensive and ludicrous, that one may arrive at the conclusion that they are paid fakes.
"What a sick, sorry bunch. It is not even entertaining anymore, like looking at JR's guts in that picture. You would think that a life threatening disease would humble him a bit. But he will go down, spewing venom, irrationality, and Right-Wing Insanity."
I agree. It can be a bit entertaining if it doesn't overrun a message board. When HuffPo started, for example, there were enough good people to offset the trolls. Yet the more Arianna refused to moderate, the more the trolls took it as an invitation to get even bolder. Then eventually the good people took that as an invitation to leave the site. Why Olbermann would have Huffington on his show is a bit unsettling. Someone might want to inform him of what the HuffPost has become.
As for Reynolds, that might not even be him who had the surgery. It could be a cynical ploy to garner him some sympathy. Maybe his bosses might want him to stop calling people "bitch". It's hard to take him seriously when he uses such gutter tactics. But you are correct, if he has health issues, it might be a good time for him to stop being such a meanie. I know if I was in the same situation, I would want to start getting my karma in better order.
"His concubine/groupie, Smell/Smelly then posts as WMM to try and counter. This is truly Bizarro World."
You think Yukk is WMM? I'm not sure of that one, but those dumbasses do seem to like to have their own strawmen, be it Weatherman, Swedishoo, or WMM/Cy.
R$ynolds has tried to turn Foot Soldier and Chem11 into strawmen, but that has obviously failed.
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Post by altitudelou on Dec 4, 2006 0:07:08 GMT -5
Wow, I was just reading the J-Vitum and Lord Reynolds post over at DBS, his Lordship really put both of his feet into that black hole he calls a mouth by using material from weatherwars.com and even rense.com, two site that he has been a major debunker of, how stupid is that dumb ass hillbilly onion farmer anywise.
I see he is accusing me of being J-Vitum, Hmmm, maybe I am, I won't deny it, let the Lord of paranoia think what he want's to, he is still a major dumb ass in admitting that chemtrail's and persistent contrail's are one in the same, he must be on drugs to FU#k UP that bad, walked right into another set up just like he did with Tracker at CTC, what an idiot.
J-Vitum must be someone that we all know, I just want to say, Good job, J-Vitum, you nailed Reynolds good, he showed his ass big time, way to go !
It must drive old John Boyd right up the wall when people keep reminding him that he is stuck there at DBS in a prison of his own making, I keep picturing a Norman Rockwell print of a school boy wearing a dunce hat standing in the corner of a one room school house when I think of Reynolds stuck at DBS, that's his reward for all of these years of his debunking, poetic justice no doubt.
All I can say is what I said quite some time back, Reynolds is the joke of the WWW internet, at least in chemtrail circles, I guess that's why he has to go to sites like the Tenneesean to look for sympathy and support, anyone that really knows who he is would just laugh at him and rightly so.
Well, I've spent enough time on this BS, Reynolds can spew his vile crap all he wants to at DBS, like J-Vitum said,............... WHO CARES..........he's obviously lost what control he ever had in admitting that Chemtrail's are real, but again,........WHO CARES.........,when have we who believe that are real ever doubted it ?
John Boyd Reynolds, Jr. is no longer a threat to anyone, he's impotent, locked up in that little hole over at DBS, the only thing he is lacking is the white coat that buckles in the back.
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Post by et in Arcadia ego on Dec 4, 2006 0:46:51 GMT -5
That's hilarious about Penrod.. Him and Phelps had a lot in common; that's why I picked the fight that got that weirdo tossed. I loved the way he/she/it would only engage someone in the 3rd person.. "It puts the lotion in the basket.."lol.
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