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Post by altitudelou on Dec 4, 2006 20:19:07 GMT -5
Well, if I'm going to be accused by Reynolds of posting at DBS as J-Vitum I might as well do what I can to help out, so I just posted this at CTC,........
DEBUNKER ADMITS CHEMTRAIL'S ARE REAL.
posted by: Louis Aubuchont @ Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:29 am DEBUNKER ADMITS CHEMTRAIL'S ARE REAL _______________________________________
Chemtrail Debunker Jay Reynolds says, post #1413 at Debate Both Sides, that Persistent Contrail's and Chemtrail's are one in the same thing and Chemtrail's are real _WHAT?
Mr. Debunker himself using information and Chemtrail photos from 'Scott Stevens 'weatherwars.info' site and 'rense.com' in validating that Chemtrail's are real !
Yes indeed, right from the mouth of "the Debunker" himself he now claims that Chemtrail's exist and form Persistent Contrail's and he quotes sources that he has vehemently debunked in the past as being unreliable, chemmie kook sites, Reynolds now relies on these as "EXPERT" sources to validate what he say's, that being that C... 0 Comment(s): [Read More]
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Post by altitudelou on Dec 4, 2006 20:26:02 GMT -5
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Post by socrates on Dec 4, 2006 22:02:48 GMT -5
Wow Lou, thanks for keeping me updated. I went over today and there are a million posts.There's some new guys J-Vitum, doesn't really sound like you at all if you ask me, yet that's besides the point, Reynolds has finally let it slip that yes chemtrails are real. Maybe he is getting alzheimers.
Who is this Jeff Reynold's character? He said he would debate reynolds if he just acted nicer, admitted he lied about chem11, and if he explained his relationship with William Cooper. But Reynolds is the ultimate coward, he can't explain those three things.
Well at least Jeff Reynolds apologized for having the same cruddy last name. I'm trying to figure out who he might be.
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Post by socrates on Dec 4, 2006 23:18:49 GMT -5
Hey Lou, I linked your Lord Reynolds CTC breaking news article to Megasprayer. Jay Reynolds Finally Cracks Under Pressure, Admits Chemtrails are Real
He continues to make a fool out of himself, but everyone seems to be ignoring his incoherent rantings very nicely, even Halva. That J-Vitum really suckered Lord Jay into admitting just a bit too much. Hey J-Vitum, if you're reading this, sign up here. I'm curious if he is someone from the early CTC days. Hey, I just found a picture of Jay after his latest beat down at DBS. Just scroll a bit.
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Post by altitudelou on Dec 5, 2006 0:00:18 GMT -5
Thanks Socrates,
It doesn't hurt to spread the word that Reynolds believes that Chemtrai's are real now, even using examples of photographic evidence from CTC, 'rense.com' and 'Scott Stevens' weatherwars.info' site, three places that he has haunted over the years in his debunking efforts, what a total hypocrite Reynolds is, he blew it big time, this time in using Chemtrail sites and material to prove they exist. ( Hey Jay, welcome to the real world. )
I don't know, there is something very familiar about J-Vitum, he could very well be one of the old CTC gang, of course Reynolds thinks J-Vitum is me, that's Ok, let the Mad Hatter rant, the only one that looks bad out of this is Reynolds, again ! LMFAO !
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 5, 2006 0:24:44 GMT -5
Also, Johnny is thinking we made a WHOLE CD about him too. ;D ;D We wrote one song called "The Legend of Johnny Spray" that is very popular, not a whole CD It is a parody of country music, Right-Wing crackpots, and all of the theories about aerosol mitigation that is fogging the true practice of global warming and ozone depletion reversal. Johnny Spray is really Jay "John" Reynolds Reynolds must now realize that we don't have a mean bone in our bodies, but he really is sounding ridiculous. Thetaloops thinks that Reynolds simply didn't get attention paid to him as a child and as an adult. And you're correct Jay, being disliked is better than being ignored Follow from song to song: www.noble-gas.com/weatherornot.mp3www.noble-gas.com/saguaro.mp3www.noble-gas.com/Johnnyspray.mp3www.noble-gas.com/JohnnySpray2.htmlwww.noble-gas.com/johnnysprayx.htmlSomewhere in the Wild West is the man known as Johnny Spray. Too much Faux News and CIA-NN has given him an expanded waistline, as big as the Texas Panhandle, , and a foggy view of the current and future destiny of humans and ants alike. Johnny’s Quest, which is to prove that the government of the United Zionists of Oilmerica is out for the good of the people is met with opposition by crazed Constitutionalists, Cynical Cyberpunks, Hapless Hippies, Bonehead Bohemians, Rotten Ravers, Crackpot “Chemmies”, and Swarthy Scientists. According to Johnny, there is no temperature increase at the poles, the ozone layer is thicker than a Head of Coors, Iraqis love America to invade their country, whales love to be harpooned, loosing your freedom for security is worth it, and Dumbya of Pretzel is the greatest president since Bill Clinton. Johnny loves Alien (no, not Mexican), and military women. There’s nothing that gives him the hots more than a military training video with Jane Karpinski and Lydie England tying up Ay-rabs, whipping their dark bottoms pink, offering sausages to hungry German Shepards, and finally tying them up in Good Ol' Oilmerica Hemp Rope. Johnny Spray is an American. He knows what it takes to make it right. Over confident and over weight, looks straight forward and knows, that what he does, he does it his way. No need to question. Just follow the lead of those in higher power, from the word of the bible to the law of the those on their high horses in the Wipe House and of course believe their media minions. No conspiracy nut is going to convince him that our great nation, would ever lie, cheat or steal from its people. There aren't chemtrails, because he was told by a pilot who spoke real goooooood! Though not a pilot, he takes the word of pilots as gospel truth, that they would never be involved in Geo-Engineering. Is Johnny a naïve Cowboy that believes what is told to him or…is he paid by people to spread disinformation?
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Post by altitudelou on Dec 5, 2006 9:20:46 GMT -5
Swampgas,
Yes, I've been aware of "The Legend Of Johnny Spray" for some time, it's a hell of a lot more truthful and accurate in describing Reynolds than his self promoting website bio-crap is.
Of course Reynolds being the sick, self absorbed Narcissist that he is, he would think that you cut a whole CD about him, in his world, everything is about him don't you know.
'Jonny Spray' is looking pretty cheesy these day's.
I love it, outstanding !
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 5, 2006 12:34:05 GMT -5
Hilarious!!! Look at Reynolds and Smelly www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=19113&page=148One post and one post only. Those two are foaming at the mouth. LOL!!! Amazing how such people respond when you put a mirror in front of them. Basically, I wanted to set the record straight on Reynolds narcissistic beliefs. No need to post anymore. Reynolds reminds me of Bush denying there is a civil war going on in Iraq.
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Post by altitudelou on Dec 5, 2006 16:52:18 GMT -5
Well, there you go, Reynolds and Bush, their both cut from the same cloth, Right Wing Fanatic New World Order types, don't matter how you dress them up, an asshole is an asshole is an asshole no matter what, there is no making an asshole look good !
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Post by socrates on Dec 5, 2006 22:47:15 GMT -5
I am nowhere closer to figuring out who J-Vitum or Jeff Reynolds are, but dang, those kids are slamming Reynolds in a major way. And Reynolds is getting all confused. He realises he made the ultimate booboo, he admitted that chemtrails are real. But anyway, check out this gem by J-Vitum. Is he soulcore? Normal Contrails: Some Sanity "Well, you can all thank me now for breathing some life back into this limp and half dead shit pit of a thread, look, even Broomstick took time away from the refrigerator and has come out to play, wow ! Reynolds you pathetic sellout, you would sell your mother if the price was right, think back you stupid moron, I was right about you then and I'm right now, your bought and paid for and anyone with a brain can see that ! Remember this? "I am so sick of idiots who have nothing better to do with their time then debate against something they don't believe in. There are people getting sick from DU, we have MTBE in our drinking water, we have Fluoride in our water poisoning us, we have health hazards all over the place, yet a few people seem determined not to let important issues get in their way of debunking chemtrails. We have traitors in our Government, the former deputy Secretary of State won the Global Governance Award for Christ sake. Wake the F*** UP! These people's time must be absolutely worthless, or they are being compensated somehow. No other explanation makes sense." Your getting real sloppy though,Lou Aubuchont is right when he says that by you using information from sources that you have spent so much time debunking in the past to prove that "Chemtrail's" and "persistent contrail's" do exist goes beyond hypocritical since you claim that they do not exist at all and there just a HOAX, I was wondering Jay, could you post some more "Chemtrail" links to more "Chemtrail photos" for us so that we can see that "Chemtrail's" don't exist? / You stupid dope ! What a pathetic piece of work you are, your wrong about Morgellons Disease and your just a paid flunky when it comes to the chemtrail spraying subject, a barking dog for your master, a back stabbing worthless sellout just like all right wing assholes that have no conscience. Your not fooling anyone, your a cold sick F#CKER working for more cold sick F#CKERS and your still trying to earn your sellout money by selling their agenda, I have no doubt but there is a special place in hell for scum's like you as a reward for your dirty deeds, hopefully you will get that reward sooner than later, I for one will raise a glass and toast your demise when that day comes. Back when I made that post there where not that many people who believed that chemtrail spraying was being done, now look, there are millions who believe it because they can see it and your still squawking about it all just being a HOAX, we know what the HOAX is alright, it's you and the rest of the stinking paid Debunker Trolls and tag along groupies like your dick warmer Ed Snell and your Lady Broomstick Gwenavere rushing to the aid of her Lord Reynolds, maybe that's waddling to the aid, how very Camelot of her. While you bag lappers sit at your computers 24/7 and constantly attack anyone that writes on the chemtrail's there are millions of people around the planet seeing them being made where they live, your attempts to keep people from recognizing that there is a chemtrail spraying program going on is a pathetic and feeble exercise, I would have thought by now that your masters would have seen the futility in keeping you jokers on the payroll because your not having the desired effect I'm sure they want to see, recently someone said that more people are now seeing and believing than not, I believe that is a f#cking understatement given the numbers of people that are agreeing that chemtrail spraying is most definitely going on. Reynolds, just how many people out of the millions that now believe in the chemtrail spraying do you think that you or your toady little tag along friends like Ed Snell and Boomer Broad are affecting anyway, get real, your just pissing into the wind and against the tide ! Hey, if you can get that fat, bored house frau Broomstick up off her wide ass that will give you a three part harmony to debunk the reality of chemtrail's against the millions that will say that you are all full of shit because they can see what's going down with the spraying, good luck with overcoming those odds you stinking muck rakers !" I think J-Vitum is someone from way back, one of those obscure comrades from the early days, someone who wrote 12 posts, then moved on, but now is back. J-Vitum nailed it. As Bill Murray as Carl said in Caddyshack, "it's in the hole." Well played Mr J-Vitum. Idon't care if you're Jimmy Carter or Bill Maher, but splendid, excellent smithers. And then Jeff Reynolds just piles it on here. Notice how he picked up on J-Vitum's clever name for boomer chick. It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature posted by Jeff Reynolds: (Me: Jeff Reynolds?? I think this dude makes perfect sense, but what's up with the name?) "While still waiting for Broom Stick to answer Reynolds' charge that she is deluded, I stumbled across some Chem11/Halva dialogue about the pig. Here one can see that Chem11 doesn't spend too much time worrying about Lord Debunker, who on the other hand spends way too much time thinking about chemmies, especially Chem11. I recommend people also take a look at the CTC thread linked to below called "Chem 11 debunks Barium, Aluminum Chemtrails" Oinky had started this thread before he was yet again banned by Thermit. Chem11 shows up by the end and cleans it up. The Gloves Are Coming Off AgainChem11: Hazel has replied to all this, albeit at CTC where Reynolds republished my relevant posts (for reasons I'm not sure I entirely understand). Chem 11 debunks Barium, Aluminum Chemtrails (CTC)I figured the least I owed her was a reply, though I'm not sure what kind of constructive dialogue can occur with someone who flatly claims to be 'misinformed' and a 'rank amateur' on the chemtrail issue. So much for that. Now what I'd like to know is why Rense/Jones Inc. is pimping obvious absurdities by self-proclaimed 'misinformed rank-amateurs'. Will Alex issue a retraction? Continue to publish red herrings and misinformation? Will Jeff try and make up for past misdeeds by publishing something quasi-intelligent on the subject? Will he complete his sexual re-assignment surgery and run of to Germany to marry Ernest Zundel? Halva: Reynolds republishes your writing because he thinks of you as "his buddy". I don't care about the rest of them. I'm not in dialogue with them and, unlike Reynolds, they have not come looking for me. Chem11: Then you are basing your decisons upon the emotional manipulations of others, rather than identifying what needs to be done and doing it. Reynolds' audience is a bit more limited in scope than Rense and Jones, wouldn't you say? But by making it personal, he has elevated his importance in your mind to the exclusion of people that are influencing hundreds of thousands of readers a day. And, no, Uncle Jay doesn't think of me as his 'buddy' anymore than I think of him as my 'uncle'. I sincerely hope I'm wrong about all this, but I strongly suspect we will see similar 'discredit-by-association' tactics being used against other hot-button issues and activists. Illegal immigration is the thing right now. Pretty much anyone besides the politicians (and who isn't harboring illegals in their garage) here in LA is all for putting a stop to turning Los Angeles into a third world nation, and the Minutemen are becoming a credible political force. Look for Rense to start dragging the least credible fringe elements to put a stop to it. Neo-nazis, people claiming that it's all a plot by the Elders of Zion, people that make our president look like a cunning linguist... all that. I'll wager a gallon of gas... any takers? Halva: I believe in analysing and countering the emotional manipulations of others, not in ignoring them. Reynolds wants to play chess. I play. Any comments on American Science Is Dead, European Quantum Mechanics Was Last Great Discovery We cannot compete with the big players in terms of quantity, only in terms of quality. Chem11: Well, that seems a bit at odds with... Quote(Halva): Not arguing with Reynolds is precisely what I advocate, and practise. Now here's a statement based on a history a little less ambivalent (and on-topic): Quote(Halva): We should not underestimate the extent to which the oil lobby funded climate change sceptics can intimidate climate scientists and activists by brandishing the “conspiracy theorist” label. Since the University of California's activities are coming into question, the following shoud prove to be quite enlightening... especially with regards to the long-term health effects of aerosol seeding. For instance, did you know that said aerosols are capable of interacting with their human hosts on a cellular level? Neither did I... "Emerging Issues in Nanoparticle Aerosol Science and Technology" (pdf) UCLA June 27th-28th, 2003
________________________ Looks like you got it wrong again, Jimbo! Sulfur content 'has been increasing'! - J. Reynolds Obviously there is now an opening for us rank and file both to defend the environmental benefits of air pollution.. what about some comment on whether the "air pollution is good" line is utilisable, perhaps in rallies - Wayne Hall On Edit: links don't always survive the copy and paste, had to fix a lot of them. sorry for any inconvenience.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 5, 2006 23:46:40 GMT -5
Edsmellyaakbuzzkillguntoerwhitemajikmanjasoncydoniaqustweatherman714debunkerobserversmoke and Johnny Spray are getting me bored. They are so full of bile and seriousness that too much of them leaves one feeling greasy and like something hot was being digested the wrong way. Look at halva, he is starting to take on their insanity. Same with Broom Stick. She has become a Reynolds groupie, same as Smelly. They are both probably sucking on that suture. That is why I will simply post one post at DBS, and leave. It says facts, and differentiates opinion. Reynolds cannot distinguish opinion from fact anymore. I am tired of poking the stick at this vicious Chihuahua through the fence. It is literally cruel, and I am never cruel to animals. As far as Smelly goes, the Internet Crimes division is already alerted to his threatening, pornographic, and nuisance posts in the past. He may go through Proxies, but they and I know who he is. I am posting this publicly because he was stupid enough to post here, MOD (I still have admin access there with your IPs) and at CTC, I have the entire backup of CTC. This is why I am always friendly, even with people I do not like at other boards Remember at Maverick's when I posted there. It was Ed Smell and others that attacked me, and I kept my cool. Debate Both Sides is a slug fest, so practically everyone there is violating the law. At least Reynolds is smart enough to announce who he is. I am in their house. When you come uninvited into my house, curse, threaten, annoy, have disrespect for my wife, and be obnoxious, you are looking for trouble. You can whatever you want at other forums. So smelly, if you are reading this, be careful....You are an annoyance. READ THIS AND STAY AWAY FROM GASTRONAMUS: news.com.com/Create+an+e-annoyance,+go+to+jail/2010-1028_3-6022491.html Perspective: Create an e-annoyance, go to jailBy Declan McCullagh Published: January 9, 2006, 4:00 AM PST Annoying someone via the Internet is now a federal crime. It's no joke. Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity. In other words, it's OK to flame someone on a mailing list or in a blog as long as you do it under your real name. Thank Congress for small favors, I guess. This ridiculous prohibition, which would likely imperil much of Usenet, is buried in the so-called Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act. Criminal penalties include stiff fines and two years in prison. "The use of the word 'annoy' is particularly problematic," says Marv Johnson, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "What's annoying to one person may not be annoying to someone else." It's illegal to annoy A new federal law states that when you annoy someone on the Internet, you must disclose your identity. Here's the relevant language. "Whoever...utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet... without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person...who receives the communications...shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both." Buried deep in the new law is Sec. 113, an innocuously titled bit called "Preventing Cyberstalking." It rewrites existing telephone harassment law to prohibit anyone from using the Internet "without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy." To grease the rails for this idea, Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, and the section's other sponsors slipped it into an unrelated, must-pass bill to fund the Department of Justice. The plan: to make it politically infeasible for politicians to oppose the measure. The tactic worked. The bill cleared the House of Representatives by voice vote, and the Senate unanimously approved it Dec. 16. There's an interesting side note. An earlier version that the House approved in September had radically different wording. It was reasonable by comparison, and criminalized only using an "interactive computer service" to cause someone "substantial emotional harm." That kind of prohibition might make sense. But why should merely annoying someone be illegal? There are perfectly legitimate reasons to set up a Web site or write something incendiary without telling everyone exactly who you are. A law meant to annoy? FAQ: The new 'annoy' law explained A practical guide to the new federal law that aims to outlaw certain types of annoying Web sites and e-mail. Think about it: A woman fired by a manager who demanded sexual favors wants to blog about it without divulging her full name. An aspiring pundit hopes to set up the next Suck.com. A frustrated citizen wants to send e-mail describing corruption in local government without worrying about reprisals. In each of those three cases, someone's probably going to be annoyed. That's enough to make the action a crime. (The Justice Department won't file charges in every case, of course, but trusting prosecutorial discretion is hardly reassuring.) Clinton Fein, a San Francisco resident who runs the Annoy.com site, says a feature permitting visitors to send obnoxious and profane postcards through e-mail could be imperiled. "Who decides what's annoying? That's the ultimate question," Fein said. He added: "If you send an annoying message via the United States Post Office, do you have to reveal your identity?" Fein once sued to overturn part of the Communications Decency Act that outlawed transmitting indecent material "with intent to annoy." But the courts ruled the law applied only to obscene material, so Annoy.com didn't have to worry. "I'm certainly not going to close the site down," Fein said on Friday. "I would fight it on First Amendment grounds." He's right. Our esteemed politicians can't seem to grasp this simple point, but the First Amendment protects our right to write something that annoys someone else. It even shields our right to do it anonymously. U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas defended this principle magnificently in a 1995 case involving an Ohio woman who was punished for distributing anonymous political pamphlets. If President Bush truly believed in the principle of limited government (it is in his official bio), he'd realize that the law he signed cannot be squared with the Constitution he swore to uphold. And then he'd repeat what President Clinton did a decade ago when he felt compelled to sign a massive telecommunications law. Clinton realized that the section of the law punishing abortion-related material on the Internet was unconstitutional, and he directed the Justice Department not to enforce it. Bush has the chance to show his respect for what he calls Americans' personal freedoms. Now we'll see if the president rises to the occasion. Biography Declan McCullagh is CNET News.com's chief political correspondent. He spent more than a decade in Washington, D.C., chronicling the busy intersection between technology and politics. Previously, he was the Washington bureau chief for Wired News, and a reporter for Time.com, Time magazine and HotWired. McCullagh has taught journalism at American University and been an adjunct professor at Case Western University.
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Post by halva on Dec 6, 2006 4:48:20 GMT -5
You should continue posting at DBS, Swamp.
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Post by halva on Dec 6, 2006 4:56:53 GMT -5
And another thing: the law that Declan McCullagh is criticizing above will probably make it easier in future to make it illegal to question that there is an anthropogenic element in climate change, a law that would greatly strengthen our hand.
By all means let Ed Smell fear prosecution.
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Post by et in Arcadia ego on Dec 6, 2006 5:23:15 GMT -5
Jay admits chemtrails are real? Hell hath truly frozen over..It must be the painkillers from his disembowelment; they make the tongue loose as a goose. That said, I skimmed the links and saw no direct admitance from him regarding chemtrails..But it's late and I'm half asleep. Can someone give a direct quote for this from him?
This is fascinating..
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 6, 2006 7:52:47 GMT -5
And another thing: the law that Declan McCullagh is criticizing above will probably make it easier in future to make it illegal to question that there is an anthropogenic element in climate change, a law that would greatly strengthen our hand. By all means let Ed Smell fear prosecution. I think The only time that would happen is if somebody stalked, either cyber or physical, somebody like a Jay Reynolds or a real scientist for their opinion on climatic change. Scientists are always debating issues. Even Reynolds, as obnoxious as he is, has never actually threatened anyone as far as I can tell. Not the same with with Ed Stench. He has threatened, harassed, annoyed, sent pornographic writing, and generally is violation of the cyber-stalking federal statute. I wrote this warning because I know they read our site a lot more than we read Maverick's or DBS. The reason he has gotten away with it because we are mild-mannered people and have a high tolerance for people. However, I remember back in the 60s, some greasers were harassing Hari Krishnas in New York. They used to spit at them, call them names, and threaten them The Haris would smile and continue dancing. Then the greasers starting physical pushing them. One day, a bunch of Krishnas ganged up on twp greasers and beat the crap out of them. You can only push mellow people so far. Yes, I have enquired from IC3 about the legality of what he is doing, and they said it is illegal under current law. His IP trace followed a path, and I have contacted all of the ISPs along his proxy path. So, IC# has not gotten a formal complaint yet, but the service providors have located him. I ALWAYS give a person a chance to back off. Ed Stench has not caused any monetary or physical damage, so I always say the punishment should fit the crime. That's why I am giving this warning to him. NEVER come and post to this site again, ED STENCH. Read from a distance, and say what you want at DBS and Maverick's, since I may not post there anymore
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Post by BigBunny on Dec 6, 2006 8:13:34 GMT -5
Halva wrote:
It is clear from this comment Halva that you do not understand the First Amendment nor the principles it embodies.
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Post by halva on Dec 6, 2006 8:23:24 GMT -5
[That's why I am giving this warning to him. NEVER come and post to this site again, ED STENCH. Read from a distance, and say what you want at DBS and Maverick's, since I may not post there anymore Good on you for warning him in this way, but you are also in a position to go on the offensive, not just defend your own territory here. It doesn't look good just to drop a one-off riposte at Reynolds because he called you his buddy and said you published a whole CD about him. J-Vitum opened a window of opportunity with the trick he played on Reynolds, and Jeff Reynolds' presence at DBS also reinforces our position. We have the best opportunity yet to put the debunkers out of business permanently and we should grab it with both hands.
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Post by halva on Dec 6, 2006 8:25:50 GMT -5
Halva wrote: It is clear from this comment Halva that you do not understand the First Amendment nor the principles it embodies. You are doing a good job with Deborah at Megasprayer Big Bunny. I am reading what both of you are posting.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 6, 2006 8:51:24 GMT -5
As much as I loathe Ed Stench, I always believe the crime and punishment should match. If someone calls me an idiot to my face, I do not punch them in the face. I usually turn the tables or get away. The problem with crime and harassment is that people will react totally emotionally. For instance, a car cuts you off, you give them the finger. The next thing you know, the guy you gave the finger to pulls a gun or tries to run you off the road. Not balanced. If the other guy gave the finger back, that is balanced. I did get bodily or financial harm from Smell, so a warning is enough.....FOR NOW. So, I won't be posting anymore at DBS. My two posts said enough. One is teaching Reynolds the difference between Fact and opinion, and the other a not so subtle warning to Smell. If I continue engaging them at DBS, it allows me to absorb their insanity. In fact, those two are the joke of the Internet, especially within Aerosol Mitigation circles. I understand your predicament halva. You want to engage, and yet you get chased from sites you think are compatible. Like I said, post in music, arts, politics, and become part of our community.
Reynolds has only once emailed me, and he was actually relatively civil. I think he secretly liked me. we are 180 degrees apart in personality, but perhaps the attention Theta and I gave him makes him realize that we mean no harm.
I think Ed/Smell/SMell/Jason/WMM/guntoter is a crazed Redneck. I seriously doubt he is is Psy-Ops, not after seeing his sloppy modus operandi. Like I said, he can say whatever he wants about me (he has to actually misquote what I post) at other boards, as long as he does not use my real name, or come here.
If he does either or both, I will pursue him with the full extent of the law. Believe me, as I am working with Cyber-Division on a class action lawsuit involving bogus USB flash drives being sold on ebay. Some guy re-programmed 256kb chips to read as 8gb chips. So, you load in a 7gb video file thinking it is fully loading. It is not. Only the header information is being saved, and not the file. This guy sold 800 of these, at $70 each, and he paid $5 each. FBI is after him with my assistance. I am like the Hari Krishna that only takes it to a point. This is why we pay taxes, not to be harassed for our opinions, but to have the Law pursue real criminals, and stalking is a crime.
Now, everyone, let Halva have his say. If he does not attack anyone, give him room for his opinion. We all can give our opinion, but let's make it like a club instead of a boxing match.
OK?
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Post by socrates on Dec 6, 2006 15:01:39 GMT -5
Jay admits chemtrails are real? Hell hath truly frozen over..It must be the painkillers from his disembowelment; they make the tongue loose as a goose. That said, I skimmed the links and saw no direct admitance from him regarding chemtrails..But it's late and I'm half asleep. Can someone give a direct quote for this from him? This is fascinating.. Hey Arcadia. This is my take on it. He didn't come out and say "yes, they are real, I regret being Mr. Debunker all these years. I have new found respect for chemmies." But he has come out and admitted that the pictures and videos that to us represent chemtrails are real. Now the impetus is on him to explain what happened in 1997 that transformed rare persistent contrails into quite common ones. He needs to explain why there is this new phenomenon since 1997ish where rare persistent contrails have evolved into all too common mega-supercontrails that not only persist, but fan out into total fake milky-white cloud cover. He has admitted to any newbie that yes, certain aircraft emissions are mucking up the skies. Myself and Deborah over at Megasprayer seem to agree that this is where the psy-op is, or as I think, where it is headed, it is headed towards Ed Smells: With global warming, more h2o ends up in the atmosphere. With increased air traffic, there are more contrails interacting with pollutants, resulting in persistent contrails. They may be more visible, but they are still just mostly natural water vapour freezing up, with more moisture, they are more persistent. Yeah that's the ticket. Reynolds' only problem is that he doesn't believe in global warming. Thus, he is becoming a dinosaur for the disinformation elements.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 6, 2006 15:16:24 GMT -5
Reynolds' only problem is that he doesn't believe in global warming. Thus, he is becoming a dinosaur for the disinformation elements. Bingo!!!! Reynolds, Smelly, and the others are like Bush and Rove, irrelevant to the NWO. Now Lovelock and Brand are the new "Leaders", much like Hillary is. Same crap, but they realize that by denying and spitting, everyone s waking up. By using "Liberals" instead of Right-Wing Crackpots, it is easier to spread disinformation, because by nature liberals are supposed to be "For the People".
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Post by halva on Dec 6, 2006 22:49:36 GMT -5
Is that what is happening, for example, now at DBS, Swamp? "The system" "is using" e.g. BC? And is she going to take Reynollds' place?
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Post by altitudelou on Dec 6, 2006 22:52:21 GMT -5
Posted at,....http://www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=19113&page=151
Halva / Wayne Hall wrote, post 3.588
Quote: Originally Posted by johnnyspray Lou, ALL pictures of purported "chemtrails", at any website, are actually contrails. This isn't a diffficult concept to grasp. Most of the world gets it or don't even care.
There are no "millions" of chemtrail believers. You have had quite a long time and have managed to get less than a dozen to post at gastronomus. Where's the millions?
Lou, you're a loser who doesn't even dare post using his real name, who lies even to his friends about coming over and posting here. You must have demanded a dozen times that Wayne not come here or mention me or DBS, yet back you come dragging all your buddies again. I see you are even publicising this thread at CTC. Thanks for the free advertising, I haven't been able to post there for a long long time and it's nice to get some exposure. It looks to me like I'm mentioned in just about every thread at gastronomus, so the exposure is wide there too. I built my site and you are bringing me thousands of curious people some of whom will read and understand.
Is Lou Aubuchont going to turn his back on this opportunity to make Reynolds appear even more of a fool?
Posting here? __________________________________________
Wayne,
I was just catching up with the BS at DBS and read the above, why do you insist on dragging me into that sewer your living in at DBS with King Shit Reynolds bobbing around like a turd in a bucket of piss there, sure, I hate everything that dirbag represents because of his feeble attempts at debunking the Chemtrail Spraying and his personal (MO) of attacking everyone who speaks to the issue, I hate him because he is a lowlife and a lowbrow, I'll deal whit his venom from here or from CTC, I have no desire to go to DBS and get involved in the shit there, I don't own boots that go up high enough to wade through all of that useless shit.
AS far as I am concerned your welcome here as long as your not acting as Reynolds proxy or babbling on about how pollution is good, if you want to discuss other topics feel free to come on over here, your not banned that I'm aware of, just warned as I recall.
I really don't know why you stay in that muck hole of DBS with those creepy little people, there is so much more out here to enjoy, why don't you free yourself from that kind of abuse, and Wayne, stop trying to get me over there, how many times do I have to tell you, "No", I'm not interested. I'm not into S&M as it seems some at DBS are.
So, yes, I can turn my back on that Bullshit because that's all that it amounts to and I can better use my time on other things, such as this,....http://watchthesky.org/chems/chemdata.htm
Why don't you promote something like this instead of throwing shit around with Reynolds, you can do better than that.
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Post by halva on Dec 6, 2006 23:04:25 GMT -5
Reynolds, Smelly, and the others are like Bush and Rove, irrelevant to the NWO. Now Lovelock and Brand are the new "Leaders", much like Hillary is. Same crap, but they realize that by denying and spitting, everyone s waking up. By using "Liberals" instead of Right-Wing Crackpots, it is easier to spread disinformation, because by nature liberals are supposed to be "For the People". Go and see Stephen Frears' "The Queen". The British monarchy is also supposed to represent "the people". www.indiewire.com/ots/2006/07/north_american.html
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 6, 2006 23:21:48 GMT -5
Is that what is happening, for example, now at DBS, Swamp? "The system" "is using" e.g. BC? And is she going to take JohnnySpray place? Possibly. BroomStick is simply insane, and does not even know she is being Spray's proxy. BTW, I am treating JR's and Smell's names as curse banned words, so you will not see their names Why don't you promote something like this instead of throwing shit around with Reynolds, you can do better than that. Yes, why do you still fight them? Did you see my approach? Two posts and I'm gone. Nothing else to say. Is it because of the exposure DBS gets, and we area much smaller site? Between Gastronamus and Megapsrayer, we have plenty of action. I would concentrate on mending things over there instead of pissing in the wind at DBS. You are just frustrating yourself.
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Post by halva on Dec 6, 2006 23:24:41 GMT -5
She is not his proxy. He is still there, as himself.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 6, 2006 23:29:39 GMT -5
She is not his proxy. He is still there, as himself. Proxy in training then
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Post by halva on Dec 7, 2006 0:14:18 GMT -5
BTW, I am treating JR's and Smell's names as curse banned words, so you will not see their names Why don't you promote something like this instead of throwing shit around with Reynolds, you can do better than that. Yes, why do you still fight them? Did you see my approach? Two posts and I'm gone. Nothing else to say. Is it because of the exposure DBS gets, and we area much smaller site? Between Gastronamus and Megasprayer, we have plenty of action. I would concentrate on mending things over there instead of pissing in the wind at DBS. You are just frustrating yourself. Lou, who you quote, is so far winning in terms of consistency between word and deed. And even: "proxy-in-training" supposes a retirement or removal that has not been accomplished. You content yourself with a black-magic-voodoo banning of names. Do you Americans really have to be liberated the same way the Germans were?
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Post by altitudelou on Dec 7, 2006 2:08:09 GMT -5
Wayne,
Please stop talking in riddles, Ok, just come right out and say what's on your mind, it's easy, give it a try.
I can't deal with your euphemisms and deep philosophical drool mouth stuff, just stick with words that don't ryme with renaissance, try cat, dog, car, eat, drink, sky, I can follow most of those if you don't go to fast.
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Post by halva on Dec 7, 2006 3:47:42 GMT -5
Nothing at all on my mind, Lou, other than regret that you still have to have a Reynolds hounding you to bring you into touch with reality. I would gladly have his job myself, as I have told you, but you are not helping me to get it.
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