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Post by altitudelou on Oct 28, 2006 22:09:46 GMT -5
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Post by altitudelou on Oct 29, 2006 11:53:48 GMT -5
Normal Contrail's Vs. Deliberate Spraying.
I should point out that although it's obvious that some aircraft are spraying directly from the lower ailerons of there tail sections, not all aircraft that spray do so from there tail sections, the debunkers would have a field day with this if I don't follow up on it.
Many of the multi engine aircraft that we observe that are spraying appear to have trail's that start well behind the aircraft and at first glance could be mistaken for a normal contrail. unless the average person observing it sees something unusual about the trail, like it skipping, forming odd rings or forming a dripping down effect it is unlikely that they would think that it was anything but a normal contrail.
We know from experienced observations and photographic evidence compiled from many countries now that there is a distinct difference between actually forming normal contrail's and the obvious spraying of materials in the atmosphere.
The methods by which the various aircraft's that are being used in this highly illegal spraying are fitted with the hardware and technology necessary to accomplish the spraying must also vary to accommodate the types of aircraft involved so there will be obvious differences in how the material being sprayed is distributed from those aircraft, the debunkers would have people believe that "One size fit's all" with regard to "normal contrail formation" but their "One size fits all contrail formation" mantra is just not believable in any rational way given the large numbers of different types of aircraft involved in this worldwide spraying operation and the obvious spraying trails that they leave behind that persist, spread and linger for many hours.
Common sense dictates that the spraying technology will be tailored to the aircraft that will be doing the spraying and not all aircraft will be fitted likewise in cookie cutter fashion. _____________________________________________________________________
"Near the day of the Great Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky." ................................................... Hopi prophecy.
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 8, 2006 0:59:35 GMT -5
"Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves… So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations…It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts." * That quote is from Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn. Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia, Athens, Apr. 28, 1997.
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Well now, It seems that back in 1997 the United States was very concerned about "other" countries that had the capability of using "eco-type weapons" that can modify the climate among other things, I find it odd that the words "terrorist" and "counterterrorism" in brackets were only added to Secretary of Defense William Cohen's speech later, perhaps to tone down the glaring truth of what the Secretary had let slip out during that DOD news briefing, obviously the Secretary did not realize the full implication of just what his words would have even now in 2006.
Not even the ego maniacal, know it all debunkers can spin and revise or refute the Secretary of Defense William Cohen's words with regard to "Others" being capable then in 1997 of altering the earth's climate / atmosphere, just as obvious is the fact that the Secretary was telling us that " that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts." I do not think that he was referring to "counterterrorism" as he never spoke those words in the DOD news briefing, rather, I think that he was referring to " intensifying our ( United States) efforts" with regard to whereby we the United States can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves…I believe that it is no coincidence that it was around 1997 that we first began to see our sky's criss crossed with the now infamous "Chemtrail's", is there a connection to Secretary of Defense William Cohen's words back in 1997 and the obvious spraying of our atmosphere, Ha, Ha, Ha, that's a no brainier !
Was anyone listening to the Secretary of Defense in 1997 when he told us that the United States was involved with altering our atmosphere and climate, probably only those who could not wait to tell the Secretary that he let the proverbial cat out of the bag is speaking so openly in front of the press, I'm fairly sure that there were a number of people that were not pleased with the Secretary's abject honesty or what they no doubt called "stupidity" at the time.
Anyway, here it is 2006 and the Secretary of Defense William Cohen's words are coming back to haunt those that are now responsible for the systematic spraying worldwide of our atmosphere with chemicals and metals as part of a Weather / Climate modification program, of course I could be wrong about all of this if Secretary of Defense William Cohen was just having a little fun at the expense of the press back in 1997, maybe he was lying like Bush does all the time, some how I do not think that is the case, I believe Bill Cohen was being all to truthful in his Apr. 28, 1997 DOD news briefing statements.
So, are you going to believe the lying, Right Wingnut Neo-Con-Artist Debunkers or Secretary of Defense William Cohen ?
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"Near the day of the Great Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky." ................................................... Hopi prophecy.
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 8, 2006 1:05:48 GMT -5
Sorry, there was supposed to be a break between the following paragraphs, I don't know why it went in bunched up like that.
"Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves… So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations…It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts." *
That quote is from Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn. Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia, Athens, Apr. 28, 1997.
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 8, 2006 14:21:07 GMT -5
Posted at CTC , Nov 8, 2006 chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread6702-60.htmlHi starman1, Your reply to my post on Secretary of Defense Cohen's telling words back in April of 1997 exemplifies the very point of why I brought this old information back into the light, with all that we have learned about various Government weather modification projects, ours as well as other countries over the years, Secretary of Defense Cohen's words ring true more so than ever as we wittiness the systematic alteration of our atmosphere via the "Chemtail / Spraying" that has been taking place since the late 1990's and becoming unmistakably more pronounced worldwide and being attributed by government scientoids to commercial jet aircraft "Persistent" condensation trails, which honest scientist will tell you normally form rarely when atmospheric conditions are just right and atmospheric conditions are never right for the production of "Persistent contrail's" over entire countries, let alone entire continents. the so called "HOAX" of Chemtrail's that is being touted by the government scientoids and debunkers alike truly reverses itself upon them when one clearly understands the size and scope of the "Lie" that is being advertised by them with regard to the production of "Persistent contrail's" via commercial aircraft, when one comes to understand that it is quite impossible for "Persistent contrail's" to form over, say, the entire British Empire and parts of France and Spain simultaneously on the same given day without the slightest trace of those same "Persistent contrail's" being visible over the Mediterranean Sea then it becomes clear that a deliberate spraying champagne has been responsible for the production of those alleged "Persistent contrail's" over such an unlikely and impossibly large land mass area such as the United Kingdom, parts of France and Spain simultaneously. People are not dumb animals, although some may be a bit slow to understand when they are being led by those with secret agendas, Secretary of Defense Cohen's truthful slip of the tongue back in 1997 revealing a mer glimpse of what is really going on with regard to "Others" as well as the United States efforts into advancing technologies that can alter the atmosphere / weather / climate and tectonics is no doubt only the tip of the proverbial iceberg when considering what we do not know about what "Is" being done along these lines secretly. If people can look past the misinformation being hawked by the government scientoids and the anal debunkers with regard to the scientific truth of "Persistent contrail's" then there becomes only one obvious truth, that being that there is at this time no doubt multiple efforts underway via our country as well as other countries to control our weather / climate and tectonics by means of human manipulation of our atmosphere. The proof of the "HOAX" of "Chemtrail's" lies squarely with those who are creating them as part of the process of the control of our weather / climate and tectonics as well as the fact that they are trying to manipulate our very thought process on the issue through misinformation, outright lies and subliminal visual saturation, with their massive efforts to convince the public that the "Persistent contrail's" that we now see on a regular daily basis worldwide are in some way only normal is in itself further proof that the "HOAX" of the "Chemtrail's was instituted and carried out by agents and agencies of our own government and no doubt NATO allies with the secret United Nations backing. Secretary of Defense Cohen's words in 1997 gave us fact to make our stand upon, as much as they no doubt would like, nothing that the scientoids or debunkers can come up with will make William Cohen's words go away, those words are a haunting reminder to us all of what people in positions of power can and will do to an unsuspecting population that they trust unconditionally to do the right thing, they often do not do the right thing as we should well know by now. The people need to demand that the truth be told by our elected officials regarding at least this countries efforts to advance the technology that Secretary of Defense Cohen spoke of back in 1997. _________________________________________________________________ "Near the day of the Great Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky." ................................................... Hopi prophecy.
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 9, 2006 18:35:10 GMT -5
This is an interesting photo, 747's playing chicken? What's the legal separation distance for large body jets over populated areas of the UK? Wonder what the altitude was, those "contrail's" look like they are forming very close to the engines, are they really contrail's or something else? news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/6132430.stm ______________________________________________ "Near the day of the Great Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky." ................................................... Hopi prophecy.
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 26, 2006 23:16:05 GMT -5
www.earthisland.org/project/newsPage2.cfm?newsID=570&pageID=177&subSiteID=4431 Years ago they had the technology to create "Powder Contrail Generation / Chemtrail's." The Chemtrail Patent Chemtrail Technology Was Patented by the US Navy in 1975 Patent # US3899144: Powder Contrail Generation ( Known today / 2006 as CHEMTRAIL'S SPRAYING ) Not even that anal hillbilly onion farmer debunker down in Arkansas can dispute the fact that the military has had the technology to spray powdered materials like Aluminum Oxide from jet aircraft since the mid 1970's and anyone who believes that the military has not and is not using this technology today is deluding themselves and living in total denial of the Chemtrail issue. Since the Navy first brought this Powder Contrail Generation / Chemtrail technology into being and obtaining a patent for it in 1975 I can only imagine that the technology has advanced considerably and is being used in a wide verity of aircraft as are now seen worldwide engaging in " Powder Contrail Generation / Chemtrail Spraying." No one in their right mind can look at this old 1975 technology and the present ongoing issue of Chemtrail Spraying and believe that the Chemtrail's are just normal contrail's, not when the military had a patent on equipment specifically designed to produce Powder Contrail's as in "Not normal contrail's". it would seem that the military likes to call anything that left behind by a jet aircraft a "contrail", even if it is produced by powdered material pumped from the aircraft and not made by the hot engine exhaust colliding with very cold, humid air to form ice crystals. We are being told that the long lasting, spreading so called normal contrail's are just "persistent contrail's" but anyone who has studied persistent contrail's knows that they only form rarely and that conditions for there forming must be just right, the likelihood of persistent contrail's forming over a four or five state area at the same time, same day or night are exactly "O", that's, ZERO, NADA, ZIP, AYNT HAPPENING because the atmospheric conditions necessary for that to take place could not and would not occur over a four or five state area, anyone that says it can are deliberately lying. Unfortunately there are no images of the upgraded Powder Contrail Generation system / Chemtrail Spraying technology that is in use today but the old equipment may be better viewed at,..... www.baywolf.net/TWBAMay06.html"There just normal contrail's" Right, don't believe that crap, there is nothing normal about "Chemtrail's" at all, don't believe the lying onion farmer debunker, believe your eyes, believe the truth ! __________________________________________________________________________ "Near the day of the Great Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky." ................................................... Hopi prophecy.
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