As a pilot, I have a confession to make

[Swamp Gas]

I see these other sites that have thousands of posters all yelling at each other is like a big drunken tailgate party. Gastronamus is more likened 8 to 10 friends getting together, listening to the "Hi-Fi", talking, dancing, laughing, and trying to figure out what's going on, much like the parties of the Beats in the 50s and the Hip parties of the 60s, and the smaller raves I have been to. We make up for quantity with quality.

[altitudelou]

BUMP !

[socrates]

If you google Julian Penrod, there are a lot of hits. I think it's cool that you went to his address and saw that he was a liar. These types of internet personalities seem to be so prevalent to have money behind them. I read one essay by Penrod on "chemtrails" which doesn't discuss any of the environmental theories for a spraying program. He sounded like Weatherman (who believes global warming is a hoax) in that the program could be for weather modification. With Mr. Jones and Kola and a bunch of others, the program is about us getting poisoned for mind and population control. Then you have your fake pilots calling us crazy for wondering why aircraft emissions are creating total fake sky cover. To me there is money behind such posts.

As the years have passed and more people have noticed the skies as seen with the Moyer report, I think CTC could no longer afford to have good moderators. They could no longer allow "chemtrails" to be seen as anything other than crazy talk.

[socrates]

There is a new thread over at CTC questioning the direction of the place.
link

I left the following post:

FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe




Joined: 06 May 2006
Posts: 67

Man and Nature is Correct Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:44 pm    
This is my first post here in a long time. The reason why I left CTC is precisely because it becomes pointless to be associated with the preponderance of crazy posts that are put up here. If one is to argue that there is an aerosol program going on, it must be done logically and scientifically. There is an ongoing campaign to marginalize the internet information as being crazy tinfoil material. I believe that many of the posters are fakes. I'm not talking about the dumbass debunkers here either. They are running out of juice as much scientific evidence has come out lately that aircraft emissions are creating fake cloud cover. Now if most of the posts are on about religious end times, ufos, chem busters, and population culling, if posts that advocate violence against aircraft are allowed to stay posted, then anyone with even a bit of interest in this topic will easily think that chemtrails is indeed a nutty hoax. There should be no tolerance for violent posts. The only way we the people are gonna make this world better is to follow the truth, follow the teachings of Thoreau, MLK, Gandhi.... It's all about peace, love, and understanding. Hogwash, even if it appears to be attempting to back up that there is an aerosol program in existence, still ends up hurting the cause, even worse than by any fake reich wing pilots.

The moderating team that was in place here before did not allow such nonsense to persist. Unless CTC cleans up its act, which it appears unwilling to do, this place will become irrelevant if it hasn't already become so.

[socrates]

If one looks at the "How to Cool a Planet" thread, they will find that we have given a realistic view at one possible theory for "chemtrails". If someone new to the topic read the thread, they would probably be left with the feeling that there might surely be something going on above us. At the other websites you get mostly talk of aliens, chembusters, genocide of the people, good old religion, major bickering, and actual, fake personas like fastmover and AA767.

Remember how when fastmover showed up ready to expose the program a bit, well now a new character has shown up at Carnicom's with Eureka! It's All On Film!!!.

This poster just joined the website. He writes, "I have been filming and photographing chemtrails for 8 years. This morning, however, was a gold mine!"

Just like with fastmover, the thread sounded very promising at first. If interested, you can see where the character's story seems to be falling apart.

Here is another thread going on over there right now.

The X Files Movie - Another In Our Face Warning?

Here's a quote from someone named Prioris who writes similar to Mr. Jones from CTC but is even nuttier. He wrote, "... the human drones live within their programmed matrix built by their NWO extraterrestrial rulers. Such a plan like depopulation will be too unbelievable to people and won't make any sense. They view something so big can't be kept secret and kept from so many people. Of course it can when most people don't care to know or don't want to know. after that, the barn door is open..."

There are a few normal people not letting it go without commenting on the foolishness posted. Anyone new to "chemtrails" or someone who has been curious is gonna stop thinking about this and stop visiting the sites. Hopefully newbies can find this site, Megasprayer, and many other good links to have the opportunity to not be steered to thinking this is some crazy made up shit we are on about.

[greenman]

i don't know if the ruling elite are extraterrestrials in the literal sense or not, so I'll just leave it at that . in my mind Population reduction does seem like a plausible purpose to all this. Look, if these chemtrails do contain metal particles or some other potentially toxic substance, then surely by this point in time they know that its harmful. They know, and they continue to pursue these projects without any oversight, consent or testing of the environmental & health impacts. If its been going on for 8 or so years already then its pretty evident that they don't give a whit about the possible health risks they are subjecting every living thing to. Not to mention the DU particles that are floating around world wide- proven to cause cancers and other mutations of DNA. That alone should be enough reason to consider population reduction as a viable theory.

[socrates]

Posted by greenman on Today at 6:02pm

"i don't know if the ruling elite are extraterrestrials in the literal sense or not, so I'll just leave it at that ."

You don't know? OK, I'll let you in on something. They are not extra anything but confused, amoral pigs. Just the fact that someone would write that leaves me feeling just a tad awkward in addressing your post.

"in my mind Population reduction does seem like a plausible purpose to all this. Look, if these chemtrails do contain metal particles or some other potentially toxic substance, then surely by this point in time they know that its harmful. They know, and they continue to pursue these projects without any oversight, consent or testing of the environmental & health impacts. If its been going on for 8 or so years already then its pretty evident that they don't give a whit about the possible health risks they are subjecting every living thing to. Not to mention the DU particles that are floating around world wide- proven to cause cancers and other mutations of DNA. That alone should be enough reason to consider population reduction as a viable theory."

Perhaps there is something to what you say. There could certainly be all types of experimenting going on above us. We know about the military experimenting on the Tuskagee soldiers. There is definitely a lot of evil stuff going on. I've heard people mention the occam's razor, about how the most logical explanation is usually the one that makes the most sense. I actually agree with those who say hidden powers wouldn't spray us to kill us off since they too would be under the fallout. I see the trails mostly being spread up towards the sun. This implies to me that there is some type of remedial action being undertaken in the Crutzen type way. I know that in another thread we kind of clashed over the ufo stuff. It is obvious to me that "chemtrails" on the internet is being made out to be as zany as ufo theories. So if what many of us believe to be the main theory for spraying is true, the more people hear about the ufo crap or the depopulation theories, they are gonna be less likely to see that something is not right up there, that it is all just "contrails". I don't want you to take this the wrong way. I am hoping I haven't taken what you said the wrong way. Were you joking when you wrote, "i don't know if the ruling elite are extraterrestrials in the literal sense or not, so I'll just leave it at that ."

Now, I will say that population culling as a theory makes more sense than that ufo's are spraying the skies. I do find it curious whenever any "chemmie" is passionate about "chemtrails" yet never seems to be involved in scientific discussion.

Carnicom and CTC are a joke! There is a concerted effort to make "chemtrails" appear to be just about the stupidest thing ever appearing in cyberspace.

This following link to Democratic Underground shows how unaware the public is about "chemtrails". The debunkers here go on and on like Mach10, Spikey, and J.J. Reynolds on better days. As I think one of the old CTC moderators commented earlier here on this topic, "Mission Accomplished."

This is why they left CTC. To make foolish comments like RedeEmerson, Kola, or any of the other nuts who troll these websites is to admit that This Is All For Entertainment Purposes!!!!!!!!

Are Chemtrails dangerous?

[greenman]

socrates said:

Posted by greenman on Today at 6:02pm

"i don't know if the ruling elite are extraterrestrials in the literal sense or not, so I'll just leave it at that ."

You don't know? OK, I'll let you in on something. They are not extra anything but confused, amoral pigs. Just the fact that someone would write that leaves me feeling just a tad awkward in addressing your post.

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Cool your Jets man. It was sort of a tongue in cheek comment I was making. Meaning the elites at the top of the power game - the ones bringing the world perpetual war, irradiating the entire planet and chemtrailing the hell out of us - they tend to act a Tad inhumanely. A Tad monsterous if you will. As in , not like normal, decent humans. Sorry if it made you a Tad uptight.

[socrates]

greenman said:

Cool your Jets man. It was sort of a tongue in cheek comment I was making. Meaning the elites at the top of the power game - the ones bringing the world perpetual war, irradiating the entire planet and chemtrailing the hell out of us - they tend to act a Tad inhumanely. A Tad monsterous if you will. As in , not like normal, decent humans. Sorry if it made you a Tad uptight.

It was sort of tongue in cheek? Is that like being sort of pregnant?

Do you have any comments to make on this thread or are your comments limited to being ones about my own? I haven't seen any opinions of yours on CTC or geo-engineering. That's ok by me if you don't want to get involved in those two aspects. I do find it curious though when I see your references to ufo's and population culling. If you can't see how harmful those two topics have been to chemtrail boards, I don't know what else to say.

[greenman]

socrates said:

greenman said:

Cool your Jets man. It was sort of a tongue in cheek comment I was making. Meaning the elites at the top of the power game - the ones bringing the world perpetual war, irradiating the entire planet and chemtrailing the hell out of us - they tend to act a Tad inhumanely. A Tad monsterous if you will. As in , not like normal, decent humans. Sorry if it made you a Tad uptight.

It was sort of tongue in cheek? Is that like being sort of pregnant?

Do you have any comments to make on this thread or are your comments limited to being ones about my own? I haven't seen any opinions of yours on CTC or geo-engineering. That's ok by me if you don't want to get involved in those two aspects. I do find it curious though when I see your references to ufo's and population culling. If you can't see how harmful those two topics have been to chemtrail boards, I don't know what else to say.

This is a public message board, don't post if you don't want people to respond to your comments. Far as I'm concerned I'm just as free to toss around ideas as anybody else. To answer your question, I don't claim to have the answers as to what is being emitted from these planes or why its being done. I remain cautiously agnostic due to the prevalence of contradictory opinions among researchers. I am capable of doing my own reading and finding the relevant articles, I am not necessarily swayed by the opinions of people who post theories on message boards, and I don't take offense or feel the need to bash those people who have oddball outlooks on life. Maybe its true that some people are put off by wacky sci fi theories made by anonymous posters, but if they can't take the time to find sourced articles & differentiate those from some anonymous persons message board rantings then they're probably lost anyway & can't be bothered to dig a little deeper for more relevant info. And So what if i make a comment responding to your comments- about UFOs or population culling? All I ever said about it anyway was that I remain open to the possibilities of UFOs, I am uncommital on the existence of ETs. And whether sickness and possibly death is a desired result or an unintended consequence of chemtrail emissions is open to debate and I maintain that the debate is a viable one. You can call it population culling, or if you prefer mass murder , but there is plenty of historical precedent to support the possibility for it. The history of eugenics programs for example.
You say people are not openmindedly embracing the the Crutzen/ Teller papers. If you must know, I think its a major part of the puzzle, but I also think there are other possibilities as well. I've said before, debating endlessly about which theory is the correct one isn't as pressingly urgent to me as knowing for sure what these emissions contain. You are free to read my comments and take it or leave it. I'm don't care about convincing anyone, just expressing a point of view.

[Swamp Gas]

Opinions of GEo-Engineering proceed from the most logical to the most far-fetched. It is not to say that UFOs and aliens are not logical explanations, it's just that they are less based on empirical evidence. No one theory is ridiculed. Every theory should be discussed. Are there theories that "poison the well"? Of course. that is what we are trying to find out, much like all of the theories of 9/11.


My list of least applicable to the most logical

1- UFOs and Aliens

2- Orbs

3- Holograms

4- Population Culling

5- Mind Control

6- HAARP amplification

7- Weather Control

8- Reversing Global Warming

9 - Reflecting UV-B radiation

[socrates]

Posted by greenman:

"...You say people are not openmindedly embracing the Crutzen/ Teller papers. If you must know, I think it's a major part of the puzzle, but I also think there are other possibilities as well. I've said before, debating endlessly about which theory is the correct one isn't as pressingly urgent to me as knowing for sure what these emissions contain. You are free to read my comments and take it or leave it. I don't care about convincing anyone, just expressing a point of view."

I agree with you in many ways. What is the point in even discussing the theories of the why's of the program, if we can't even establish that anything fishy is going on above us. I like reading your comments. I am very appreciative also of the photos you come up with. I definitely am in agreement with you over the UFOs. My belief is that there are UFOs, but that they are military in nature. I do get sick of hearing about et's and sylphs. I wish there was a word for UFO's that doesn't imply little green creatures with the beady eyes.


Posted by swampgas:

"...My list of least applicable to the most logical
1- UFOs and Aliens
2- Orbs
3- Holograms
4- Population Culling
5- HAARP amplification
6- Weather Control
7- Reversing Global Warming
8 - Reflecting UV-B radiation "

I think this is a good list. Sometimes I think the UV-B radiation is ahead of the global warming also. I have heard that we shouldn't be in the sun for over 15 minutes. There has also been a huge bump in skin cancer. It appears that the two issues may be related. What may cool down the planet may also be damaging the ozone layer. What may be going on is like a dog trying to catch its tail or when we have an itch, we scratch it to relieve the pain yet cause other difficulties.

[socrates]

If one takes the time to investigate chemtrail forums, some interesting observations can be made.

Here is a current thread over at CTC.

posted by FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe:

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Originally posted by Smoke

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Originally posted by FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe

I found a couple websites that actually make tons more sense about chemtrails than the tinfoil nonsense found here and at Carnicom's. I just wonder what the chemtrail characters get paid, how many there are, etc..


Gastronamus Cafe
Megasprayer
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Megasprayer is an enjoyable site. Chem11 seems to be pretty sharp and I enjoy reading Big Bunny's posts in "The Outer Limits" section.

Not much good to be said about some of the characters at gastronamus though.
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Smell? I can see why you would promote Megasprayer over Gastronamus Cafe. I personally see the worth of both. They are complementary websites run by former CTC moderators who got fed up with this place.

Debunkers have a blatant strategy to obfuscate Chem11's ideas on the high sulfate content of certain jet fuels. It is a strategy to get people to think the chemtrails are just a result of more air traffic and a new jet fuel used to make aviation safer. Yeah, right. Plus, it is no surprise that you would point out the one section of Megasprayer that deals with ufos and other anomalous topics.

It also makes sense for you to attack Gastronamus Cafe, seeing how the moderator at that place could see through all the dumbass multiple id debunker games going on at CTC when he moderated here.

Nice try.
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Here are some links to Carnicom's forum where Smell is running similar debunking.

Old 'trail Photos

Rick Moors is knocking on doors!! TY

Yacks Pictures For Kola

Older pictures will sometimes show sulfate aerosol pollution in the skies. Some people have never heard of acid rain or more likely are paid to not mention this.

 

[Swamp Gas]

LOL! Here's what I posted on that CTC thread. Don't get me started at that place though

It is a den of swill, but once every couple of months I'll post something.

Anybody hear from Mark Sky Lately?

Originally posted by Smoke
quote:
Originally posted by FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe

I found a couple websites that actually make tons more sense about chemtrails than the tinfoil nonsense found here and at Carnicom's. I just wonder what the chemtrail characters get paid, how many there are, etc..


Gastronamus Cafe
Megasprayer



Megasprayer is an enjoyable site. Chem11 seems to be pretty sharp and I enjoy reading Big Bunny's posts in "The Outer Limits" section.

Not much good to be said about some of the characters at gastronamus though.


Hi Smell/Jason/Cydoniaquest/Buzzkill/Fastwalker/guntoter/Weatherman714/Fastmover/Whitemajikman/and all of your other dumb ass alias'.

Still denying Aerosol Mitigation?

Oh well, classic sign of insanity (Like your hero Dumbya Bush) is to keep repeating the same task over and over, expecting different results.

How's the Parrot though? Ever want to give her up for adoption, let me know.

[increase 1776]

I hear from mark sky a couple times a week.We exchange different articles we run into about Morgellon's,NWO,etc.Don't think he's posting at CTC anymore.Has anyone ever researched thermit?

[Swamp Gas]

Thermit, aka Mark Steadham, owner of about 100 sites. It is how he makes a living. Other than that, he allows all kinds of crackpots of his site, unattended.

BTW, if you go back to the CTC site, you'll see I smoked out "smoke" as being Jason.

Did anyone email Thermit about this. I certainly don't spend enough time there to really care.

I caught him off guard on this.

Just curious, who is Jason on Gastronamus? Any guesses?

[socrates]

admin said:

Thermit, aka Mark Steadham, owner of about 100 sites. It is how he makes a living. Other than that, he allows all kinds of crackpots of his site, unattended.

BTW, if you go back to the CTC site, you'll see I smoked out "smoke" as being Jason.

Did anyone email Thermit about this. I certainly don't spend enough time there to really care.

I caught him off guard on this.

Just curious, who is Jason on Gastronamus? Any guesses?

Yikes, if I started guessing, wouldn't that get this thread moved to the fight club? I do know that when the thing with mmmmbarium got going, the attacks on my karma points began. Funny thing is, whenever I bumped his karma points down in retaliation, they would mysteriously bump themselves right back up.

It's one thing to troll open forums with no one moderating. If there are infiltrators signed up here, they realise that this is a whole different ballgame than the "kook forums". You guys served their purpose at first, drawing those curious over to the one or two places. You ran a good ship and awareness grew. You just did too good a job. Now they only want tinfoil and noise to dominate the big chemtrail forums.

[Swamp Gas]

The karma points can be put in place by anyone, even an invisible troll like Jason. I think Iwill be removing them tonight, as they serve no purpose.

[socrates]

Greenman has made a cameo over at CTC and is supporting of all people Mmmmbarium and is in discussion with a global warming debunker named PAK who's trolling this dude Sorethroat whose crime is to post science articles kind of like Big Bunny does over at Megasprayer.
Accelerating Global Climate Change II


Posted by Greenman:
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Originally posted by mmmmbarium

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Originally posted by FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe
I found a couple websites that make a lot more sense than this place does ever since all the moderators quit.

Megasprayer

Gastronamus Cafe
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I wouldnt join Gastronamus Cafe. Swamp Gas ridicules those who dont agree with him. I posted a couple responses on a global warming thread saying that I thought global warming was being caused by a cylical cycle of the sun, and that chemtrails and Co2 emmissions were agitating the problem. But I stated that I still think were damaging the planet and that we should stop burning fossil fuels. And that I thought Al Gore was a Fear monger.

So Swamp Gas e-mailed me, after he banned me. I responded, and this is what he wrote to me.

Typical little boy. You were always a problem. Now you can wait for the
"Aliens" to save your sorry, paranoid ass. LOL!!!!
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{Greenman)
yup that place has its share of pretentious tools, which is why I deleted my account after 3 months . Initially I joined because I thought you could discuss a variety of off-mainstream topics, without getting railed on. Turned out not to be the CasE.. But...there's nice folks too& good info there also... I just went in there for the first time in months , & this is what they 're saying about us,
mmmb.

"I think the mmmmbarium, Greenman infiltrations were token efforts at disrupting this forum. If Gastro and Megasprayer actually take off and someday compete with the big boards for the hearts and souls of the chemtrail aware, then I believe such infiltration efforts would be greatly increased.

"They may have the power of fake numbers, yet we the people have the real power of numbers. The more society becomes aware of the disinfo techniques, the more likely the internet will become a force for positive social change. "

Infiltrations? Sorry Trollcrates/FUI, but methinks you're suffering a touch of the vapors! Delululusional! Out to Lunch at a Tin Foil Tea Party! Anybody can look at my posts here or there & see I'm on not a disruptor or psy-operative or anti-chemtrail disinformant. Nor am I a double/triple/quadruple agent ! Just look at my GD photo thread for cripes sakes. Sorry to go off topic, but I'm annoyed!





I just left a couple posts for Pak and Greenman:

posted by FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe:
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Originally posted by PAK
Hi Greenman,

Well FUI also called me a Troll. Whatever. Get the facts. Global Warming is being pushed by the BIG BOYS....
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Ha, You don't think you're trolling Sorethroat?

Posted by Pak:

"I agree with you Greenman. Sorethroat is nothing but a mouthpiece for the UN global hysteria crowd.....Keep posting your BS Sorethroat, you're nothing but a shill for the Elite."

Perhaps the reading over at Rense.com is turning you into a wingnut.
So if man-made global warming is being pushed by the "Big Boys", why are these same folks behind the propaganda that there is no man-made global warming? Or are they both part of some illuminati scheme you read about over at Alex Jones, Rumor Mill News, or Tom Flocco?

Sorethroat does a service by providing hard science.

Then I posted this:

Maybe you weren't a disruptor Greenman, but it was quite strange how you upped and left after MmmmBarium got banned. Now you are backing someone who is pissing into the wind with his crazy ufo and mind control talk. You did a good job presenting yourself as normal for a good while, but it did eventually emerge that you have similar jackass fantasies like mmmmbarium.

[altitudelou]

Wow, we must be making some good sense here at Gastro for all of these wack jobs to be paying so much attention to what goes on here, by their taking shots at us, I guess we are doing something right if we are pissing off the Trolls and tin-foil hat freaks.

This is not unlike the BS that's going on with Wayne Hall / Halva and his dwindling crew at DBS.

[socrates]

Greenman went nuts, totally sauteed me at CTC. .....it's 12:38 am and it's 68 degrees farenheit. And they are playing Pink Floyd on the weather channel for background music, trippy indeed.

But uh before I could get into some old fashioned bickering at CTC Starman came in and shut us down. I'm thinking of apologizing to him for the bickering and then ... any suggestions for questions for him? Wasn't he a debunker, also banned by et Arcadia? I don't want to just get banned for some dumbass comment to a global warming debunker. Sure, chemtrails might be accelerating it, but man made global warming is well accepted by how many scientists? 95% of them?

I don't see starman making any comments on chemtrails. That website is getting very boring.


ON EDIT: just realised.... hey Floyd is back on and just noticed this is post #420 for me. And Floyd is on?? "Strange days indeed"

[altitudelou]

Ha, I get a kick out of the fools that want to debunk global warming that say, Well, the sun is heating up the whole solar system, that may be true but we human have been working on putting greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere since the beginning of the industrial revolution, doing our best to alter nature and make sure we turn up the heat with regard to our climate.

The sun has always played a part in the heating of our earth / atmosphere, how it heats up or not depends entirely on what is in the atmosphere, the global warming nay-sayers never point that fact out, wonder why?

[halva]

Is it because they are in the pay of the big oil companies, Lou?

[socrates]

Yeah, look at Mmmmbarium and that crew. They are so against global warming being man made and they are always on about the sun. These types go no where near geo-engineering as a possiblity.

Pak over at CTC is saying the big boys are behind the global warming hoax. The oil companies and shitheads like O'Reilly, Reynolds, they like to manufacture facts. Pak is hounding sorethroat. She is as big into promoting that global warming is a hoax as we all are about wtf is going on up there. Those are paid fakes and useful idiots over there for the most part.

And Greenman made the most idiotic hateful post over there. Smell and company must hate it that there are plenty of us who don't fall for their game and keep striving toward the stoppage of all chemtrails. They hate it when we use logic and credible sources. They want everyone to think we believe in aliens or mind control.

No one can control your mind if you don't let them. NO ONE!!!!!!

[altitudelou]

Seriously, people who live their lives locked within paradigms of their own making are truly the narrow-minded, they can not and never will see clearly if they are not flexible enough to realize that nothing in life is set in the ridgedness that they perceive it to be, all is in a constant flux, a cascade of Omni changes that we humans have only begun to conceive of and become aware of at the lowest levels that our tiny mental process will allow, one thing is quite evident in life, people who believe that they know everything_surely know nothing !

So much for the Reynolds and those ridged goose-stepping thinkers like him in this life, they are lost to their own self imposed ignorance because they do not have the mental capacity to accept any realty other than the one that they are taught to believe in, they can not and do not want to escape the prefabricated paradigm that holds them prisoners in their own little narrow minds.

Free thinkers, forward thinkers are those of us who can see with clarity outside of the ridiged paradigm, we see the global warming, we see the spraying and so many other things for what they really are, without the blinders that the non-free thinkers impose upon themselves that keep them from seeing the truth, even when it is right in front of their eye's.

[altitudelou]

As posted in the thread,..."As a pilot, I have a confession to make."


Seriously, people who live their lives locked within paradigms of their own making are truly the narrow-minded, they can not and never will see clearly if they are not flexible enough to realize that nothing in life is set in the ridgedness that they perceive it to be, all is in a constant flux, a cascade of Omni changes that we humans have only begun to conceive of and become aware of at the lowest levels that our tiny mental process will allow, one thing is quite evident in life, people who believe that they know everything_surely know nothing !

So much for the Reynolds and those ridged goose-stepping thinkers like him in this life, they are lost to their own self imposed ignorance because they do not have the mental capacity to accept any realty other than the one that they are taught to believe in, they can not and do not want to escape the prefabricated paradigm that holds them prisoners in their own little narrow minds.

Free thinkers, forward thinkers are those of us who can see with clarity outside of the ridiged paradigm, we see the global warming, we see the spraying and so many other things for what they really are, without the blinders that the non-free thinkers impose upon themselves that keep them from seeing the truth, even when it is right in front of their eye's.

[altitudelou]

Swamp,

Could you delete that last entry of mine, I copyed it to post in another thread and like a "DUMBASS" reposted it right here, DUH !

[et in Arcadia ego]

socrates said:

I'm thinking of apologizing to him for the bickering and then ... any suggestions for questions for him? Wasn't he a debunker, also banned by et Arcadia? I don't want to just get banned for some dumbass comment to a global warming debunker.

Don't you dare apologize to that twatter for ANYTHING, EVER, understood? You tell him Arcadia said ,"Those stretch marks on your mouth sure do look pretty, Mr Alphabet.."

There's nothing at CTC worth fighting over; it's a disinfo Haven, and I believe strongly that was it's intention from the outset. Divert and channel your energy to places and people you have a better chance of penetrating without such concerted resistance.

Best advice I could possibly give you, bro.

Cheers,
D

[et in Arcadia ego]

BTW, I called out mbarrium even before the CTC collapse. I knew he was a baddie, and swamp can back that one up..

This is a sticky business. When you see the 60ft webfalls for 8 months on end like I have you realize that I mean it literally..

Fuck the Alphabets.

[et in Arcadia ego]

altitudelou said:

Ha, I get a kick out of the fools that want to debunk global warming that say, Well, the sun is heating up the whole solar system, that may be true but we human have been working on putting greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere since the beginning of the industrial revolution, doing our best to alter nature and make sure we turn up the heat with regard to our climate.

The sun has always played a part in the heating of our earth / atmosphere, how it heats up or not depends entirely on what is in the atmosphere, the global warming nay-sayers never point that fact out, wonder why?

Hey Lou, here's one just for you, man:

www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=89583&sid=b25f43ff7d0650358d1eb255c9ed27f8#89583

That's a GOOD one..Make sure you get a chance to read it.

Cheers,
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