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Post by socrates on Jan 14, 2007 11:15:51 GMT -5
Here's one tidbit pesky investigators might want to investigate. Back in 2002, Colin Powell admitted to the existence of the chemtrail program. OK, he didn't actually put the word "chemtrail" into a proposed bill like Kucinich did, but in a way, he does seem to have provided a similar smoking gun. What does Colin Powell have to say for himself for the quote below? Powell Jeered at Development SummitBy Glenn Kessler and Jon Jeter Washington Post Foreign Service Thursday, September 5, 2002; Page A01 Fair use excerpt: The protests began when Powell mentioned the threat of famine in southern Africa and singled out Zimbabwe for making the problem worse with its "lack of respect for human rights and the rule of law." The protests continued as Powell criticized Zambia, another hunger-stricken southern African nation, for refusing food aid in the form of genetically modified corn, and when he linked free trade to development and insisted that the United States was commited to halting global warming. "The United States is taking action to meet environmental challenges, including global climate change, not just rhetoric," Powell said as the protesters erupted in more boos and the police removed about a dozen. "We are committed to a multibillion-dollar program to develop and deploy advanced technologies to mitigate greenhouse gas emissions."WTF? Tell us more about this multibillion-dollar program which is about deploying "advanced technologies to mitigate [ghg] emissions"  |
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Post by socrates on Jan 14, 2007 11:40:37 GMT -5
I am not saying chemtrails are for fighting global warming. I am not sure. UV-b ray protection makes more sense for where we are seeing the spraying done, in the troposphere. Yet, it has been proven beyond a doubt that Frankenstein scientists are working with fascist interests to find cheap fixes to environmental problems without addressing the fundamental causes of such stress.
These people are not that bright. Powell's admission above is further proof that what we are witnessing is a military/Nato operation. Anyone who believes that what we are seeing is a result of ALL aircraft emissions interacting with pollution molecules over industrialized areas is either naive or full of shit. I believe that such people quite visible at other websites are in fact paid, disinformation agents. Their downfall like with Colin Powell's inevitably arises because when you lie all the time, at some point those lies become impossible to maintain.
Am I the only one who can see the psy-op for what it is? Trust no one but the truth along with honest truthseekers who rely on proof and intelligent, democratic discourse. There are too many on these forums talking as if they have big answers, and they all fall short, some even come across as if they are disinfo agents.
It's one thing to base one's propaganda on eight years of painstaken research. It's one thing to say believe me, I have looked at all this, and these are the facts.
Do not buy into these things like I have done in the past.
Remember: There are more people, tons of people, who are aware of the chemtrail program. We cannot let the internet spooks skew this truth. They may be able to put tons of fake resources into their fake internet arenas. But there will always be those who see through the propaganda and try to point the way towards honest discourse for any so interested in that.
Big mouths are all over the internet proclaiming this and that without proving it. If they are naive, useful idiots, then they should step to the sidelines and let the honest people do the heavy lifting. If they are paid fakes such as the asshats who believe that all aircraft are involved, fine, continue with what you are doing. Eventually word will filter out that you are paid fakes like the Wizard of Oz, and when sincere people start tugging at that curtain, they will finally understand your copying and pasting bullshit and see you for the disinfo tools that you are.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jan 14, 2007 11:43:27 GMT -5
As the government themselves call it "Aerosol Mitigation" gastronamus.proboards27.com/index.cgi?board=ozoneglobalwarming&action=display&thread=1165642479In my opinion, the other use of aerosols, UV-B blocking, is more clandestine. It is more frightening to say everyone will get cancer, than it is to say ocean levels will rise. Right now, with even Exxon admitting to fossil fuel accelerated global warming, it is more acceptable to talk about that aspect. By mentioning UV-B blocking, it will invariably lead back to Hydrogen and atomic testing above ground, which counters the absurd CFC cause of Ozone depletion. Also, most of the H-Bomb testing was done in the South Pacific, where the greatest area of Zone blowout is. |
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Post by socrates on Jan 14, 2007 12:16:37 GMT -5
I think the cloro-flourocarbon explanation for the ozone hole is correct, but perhaps there is much truth to what you say about the nuclear testing having much to do with it also.
I think your analysis is spot on Swampgas about why global warming is hyped while ozone depletion is presented as if it has been solved and is just about fixed. No, not even close. It will take 50-100 years for it to fix itself, and that is only if we stop doing things that damage it.
Also, both of us have forgotten about the shuttle rockets.
What backs your point is that recently we have been informaed not to stay outside for more than fifteen minutes at a time. We heard that once, just like we heard about chemtrails once out of a U.S. politician (Kucinich). If people really knew how much damage the sun was doing to our skin, more people would stay indoors, the staus quo would take a hit. Everyone is affected by the sun. They are pushing all the marbles into global warming. They want us to think this is all so scientific, that we are dumbass unwashed masses who need the patriarchy to take care of we the people.
I think you make a great point Swamp, how we hear so much about Dr. Evil and global warming, but we hear next to nothing about ozone in the troposphere and stratosphere. The sheep then think that if they buy a hybrid car, watch the Al Gore movie, and recycle their newspapers that they have done their part.
When I hear so much about the one thing and next to nothing on the other, then when the other starts to be looked into, yet the believer disinfo comes out strong arguing that we are seeing a changed atmosphere interacting with ALL aircraft, then I say that is a lot of hooey. I say take your copying and pasting and your arrogant debunker propaganda and come up with something better.
They want us to think chemtrails aren't that well-known by the masses. I believe we are getting there.
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Post by madcitizen on Jan 15, 2007 4:55:52 GMT -5
quote by Colin Powell
Wow. This is fairly revealing; and suspicious IMO. Like Kucinich's bill, our "leaders" tend to slip up with their words every once in awhile. Don't they? Well, I suppose Kucinich's bill was quite intentional. But we aware people catch those slip ups. Ha! We must be careful not to read into things too much, but we should definitely read the B.S. between the lines!
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Post by socrates on Jan 15, 2007 15:25:58 GMT -5
quote by Colin Powell Wow. This is fairly revealing; and suspicious IMO. Like Kucinich's bill, our "leaders" tend to slip up with their words every once in awhile. Don't they? Well, I suppose Kucinich's bill was quite intentional. But we aware people catch those slip ups. Ha! We must be careful not to read into things too much, but we should definitely read the B.S. between the lines! This is why the internet sucks, why certain posters who come across as chemtrail believers suck shit. I noticed this one comment at an old CTC thread tucked it with the usual fake bullshit going on. I went to the source, fortunately it is still there, and I don't see how this is anything other than an admission of the chemtrail program. Powell was in hostile territory. You have to remember that these are stupid a-whats (Lou's word- a good one to keep this in family tv time). None of them are smart. Not Cheney, not Powell, not Rove, none of them. They are cheaters. The problem is with chemtrail forums being run by fakes from the start. Anything good gets buried. It's easy to do when you generate all the fake id's. Then there is a chemtrail character, I won't name because I'm not allowed to, but this person can take any thread off-topic, in fact it is rare to see a good thread ever get too far before this fake tries to derail the thread or cause trouble. This person promotes hoaxes and makes insane comments as if it is his job to present chemmies as tinfoil dumbasses. The problem is with the chemtrail forums themselves. It's not that Colin Powell did not make that revealing comment. It's that the forums have been run by fakes, and when Swampgas tried to stop the madness, Thermite said no, anyone, trolls included, must be allowed to post at CTC. ____________________________ Chemtrails are Real; Chemtrail Forums aren't |
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Post by socrates on Jan 20, 2007 22:19:53 GMT -5
This quote by Colin Powell gave it all away. But one has to dig deep to find this information. It is hidden among all the crap that one must wade through with the chemtrail forums. All indications are that this was a set up from the start. The end game is that yes there is something going on but that what you are viewing is the result of global warming and everyday pollution. The chemtrails are merely persistent contrails. You have increased super sturation going on. With African dust, chinese aerosols and all the other pollution, all aircraft under the right conditions are creating artificial cloud cover. So accept this says all these fake chemtrail forums.
How do I know this? All one has to do is read a lot of chemtrail forums past and present and see how this all adds up into being a scam. Plug chemtrails into search engines you get nothing but predetermined results. Plug some imaginative words like ozone depletion, aerosol mitigation, atmospheric spraying, whatever you think might lead to some answers, you get a lot of pdf's and other materials that are unaccessible. There is already plenty that shows that major plans have been in development to geoengineer the skies. The big rabbit hole was the Teller/Crutzen angle because such ideas have to do with spraying the stratosphere. What we have been witnessing has been taking place in the troposphere to the lower stratosphere. Heck, most of the time it is so cloudy, foggy, or whatever you want to call it, that one is unable to even see what is going on.
What we do know is that something changed around 1997. The only public explanation didn't come out until the last year or so with the BBC global dimming report. Chemmies have been portrayed as having clouditis or being susceptable to a hoax. Now it has been shown that chemmies were in fact crying out about a factual situation, this mucking up of the skies by aviation emissions.
But now we end up with the end game of fake chemtrail forums with fake believers. The outrageous believers tie in with the plan to portray all this as tinfoil nonsense. The others, like the creepy, effeminate Megasprayer simply copies and pastes that all aircraft are involved. They come out in alliance with Spray and Smell in agreeing that chemtrails are contrails. If one asks them to explain their points they are greeted with do your own homework. They are in fact not much different than Lord Debunker and Smelly. They all work in unison to promote the false idea that all aircraft are involved.
Basically, chemtrails are real, but chemtrail forums are not.
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Post by halva on Jan 20, 2007 22:53:20 GMT -5
They all work in unison to promote the false idea that all aircraft are involved. It seems that one of the moderators at DBS saw Carnicom on television and was persuaded by him, except on this point. It was not difficult, of course, for Reynolds to dissuade him and bring him back into the fold. |
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Post by socrates on Jan 21, 2007 12:34:30 GMT -5
There is no way all aircraft are involved. If so, it would already be explained why all aircraft are capable under certain meteorological conditions to create fake cloud cover. It would be shown to be the jet fuel or with some change in the engine. Chemtrails wouldn't be ignored. It would have gotten the same air time as Big Foot or the Bermuda Triangle since 1997.
If any one tries to say that all aircraft are involved, that chemtrails are contrails, ask them why the spraying seems to be done in the direction of the sun. In the morning the crap is to the East, in the late afternoon to early evening, the crap can be seen to the West. There is no way that all aircraft are involved. Anyone saying so seems to be involved in some kind of massive confidence game.
(By the way, chemtrail subliminals are popping up all over the television. Check for cmmercials of course, but also look at the backdrops of cable news and sports stations. To the naked eye, there seems to be an increase in the use of the chemtrail subliminals.)
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