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Post by Swamp Gas on Nov 30, 2010 18:05:51 GMT -5
blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/richardspencer/100065816/is-wikileaks-a-front-for-the-cia-or-mossad/Is Wikileaks a front for the CIA or Mossad?By Richard Spencer World Last updated: November 29th, 2010 Wikileaks, according to every news agency, newspaper and television station across the world, is a huge embarrassment, a disaster for the United States. You will therefore be surprised to learn that Wikileaks is in fact a US-front organisation, or at the very least a Mossad operation. It is intent on undermining peace in the Middle East, and discrediting the region’s leaders and Iran in particular. That, at least, was the view of an Iranian analyst interviewed just now on al-Jazeera. The Wikileaks disclosures should be seen, he said, in light of the battle for power between the Republican and Democratic “factions” in the US regime. All bizarre and nonsensical conspiracy theory of course. Except. Well, I don’t buy the conspiracy theory. But one thing’s for sure – the leaks reflect far worse on Middle Eastern regimes, including but not only Iran, than on the United States. Leaving aside the “Bomb bomb bomb Iran” stuff, what for example will President Ali Abdullah Saleh of Yemen say to his people now he has been clearly revealed to have got the US to lie on his behalf (not that it wasn’t common knowledge)? As I have just said in an online commentary, the disclosures, based as they are on diplomatic cables, set out extremely clearly the thinking underlying US government policy – including rationales that cannot usually be given publicly for fear of offending allies or revealing secrets. Their partiality might be questioned – but their coherence can’t. Ultimately, they put the onus on Middle Eastern countries to explain themselves. The cables are America’s own explanations. Neither Iran nor many of its Arab friends and enemies like being held to account overmuch. Now they have been. No wonder Iran thinks it’s a plot; I wonder if other countries agree. I wouldn’t be surprised.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Nov 30, 2010 23:17:14 GMT -5
They can shut down sites that trade music with no trial, yet can't touch this
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 11, 2010 16:23:43 GMT -5
poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2010/12/wikileaks-advancing-israeli-agenda.htmlWikiLeaks: Advancing an Israeli Agenda?By Maidhc Ó Cathail at dissidentvoice.org Like 9/11, WikiLeaks has been singularly good for Israel. Asked on the night of September 11, 2001 what the terrorist attacks meant for U.S.-Israel relations, Benjamin Netanyahu, the then former prime minister, tactlessly but accurately replied, “It’s very good.” And on the day after WikiLeaks’ publication of U.S. diplomatic cables, Netanyahu “strode” into a press conference at the Israeli Journalists Association, looking “undoubtedly delighted” with the group’s latest embarrassment of U.S. President Barack Obama. “Thanks to WikiLeaks,” Aluf Benn wrote in Haaretz, “there is now no fear Washington will exert heavy pressure on Israel to freeze settlement construction or to accelerate negotiations on a withdrawal from the territories.” Instead, also courtesy of WikiLeaks, the world’s attention had been shifted exactly where a “vindicated” Netanyahu wanted it – toward Iran’s non-existent nuclear weapons programme. “Our region has been hostage to a narrative that is the result of 60 years of propaganda, which paints Israel as the greatest threat,” Netanyahu told the assembled journalists. “In reality leaders understand that that view is bankrupt. For the first time in history there is agreement that Iran is the threat.” While there is considerable dispute about the extent to which Arab leaders share Netanyahu’s understanding of “the Iranian threat,” the Arab public overwhelmingly considers Israel to be a far greater threat. Nevertheless, according to Haaretz columnist Ari Shavit, Julian Assange “has shattered the accepted dogma on the understanding in the Middle East in the 21st century.” WikiLeaks, crowed Shavit, “proved” that the Israeli occupation and colonisation of Palestine was not the main cause of instability in the Middle East. Instead, the secret cables “revealed” that “the entire Arab world” is concerned about “one problem only — Iran, Iran, Iran.” Thus, Shavit concluded, the only way to bring peace to the region was to deal with “Iran first.” Strangely, the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange seems to accept the Israeli vision of “war is peace” in the Middle East. In an interview with Time magazine, Assange singled out Netanyahu as an example of a world leader who believed the publication of Arab leaders’ provocative privately expressed comments “will lead to some kind of increase in the peace process in the Middle East and particularly in relation to Iran.” Even more puzzling, Assange had an op-ed piece in Rupert Murdoch’s The Australian, in which he quoted something the media mogul had written in 1958: “In the race between secrecy and truth, it seems inevitable that truth will always win.” In choosing another pro-Israel apologist as a model of transparency, is it possible that Assange is ignorant of the key role played by Murdoch’s media empire in propagating the lies that led the New York Times to dub the war in Iraq “Mr. Murdoch’s War”? Assange seems equally oblivious to the significant contribution made by the New York Times itself to the war whose conduct he now claims to oppose. On September 8, 2002, the paper of record led with a front-page story by Judith Miller and Michael Gordon, which falsely claimed that Saddam Hussein was seeking to buy aluminium tubes as part of its “worldwide hunt for materials to make an atomic bomb.” As Michael Massing later wrote, “In the following months, the tubes would become a key prop in the administration’s case for war, and the Times played a critical part in legitimizing it.” Chosen by Assange to publish its leaked documents because it is one of “the best newspapers in the world for investigative research,” the pro-Israel Times is now busily spinning the leaks to push America into an equally unnecessary but even more disastrous war with Iran. Given that the WikiLeaks revelations have been such an unexpected “diplomatic coup” for Israel, its American lobby appears to be strangely divided over the issue. On one side, there are those like David Frum, Jeffrey Goldberg, and Michael Ledeen who delight in being able henceforth to cloak their incessant Iran warmongering behind a specious Arab cover. “Those who suggest that it’s some ‘Israel lobby’ or Jewish cabal that is driving the confrontation with Iran” should be embarrassed by the leaks, writes Frum. “WikiLeaks confirms that the region’s Arab governments express even more anxiety than Israel about the Iranian nuclear weapons program.” Meanwhile, the most virulent attacks on WikiLeaks have come from some of Israel’s staunchest supporters. William Kristol, editor of Rupert Murdoch’s Weekly Standard, wants Congress to enable Obama to “Whack WikiLeaks.” Dianne Feinstein, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and Joe Lieberman, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, appear only too willing to oblige. Both senators have called for the prosecution of Assange under the 1917 Espionage Act. Feinstein is also working with Senator Charles Schumer on media legislation that would allow the prosecution of organizations like WikiLeaks. How do we reconcile the Israel lobby’s apparently schizophrenic reaction to WikiLeaks? Could it be that Julian Assange has killed two birds for Israel with one document dump? Thanks to WikiLeaks, the well-publicised remarks of a few Arab leaders provide much-needed cover for pro-Israelis as they relentlessly press America to whack Iran. At the same time, the disclosure of U.S. diplomatic secrets has given the likes of Joe Lieberman another excuse to “kill the internet” — to prevent Americans from ever finding out how they got into such a mess in the Middle East. But just like 9/11, no matter how much WikiLeaks has benefited Israel, most observers still seem loath to consider the Tel Aviv connection. Maidhc Ó Cathail is a freelance writer. His work has been published by Al Jazeera Magazine, Antiwar.com, Dissident Voice, Khaleej Times, Palestine Chronicle and many other publications. Read other articles by Maidhc.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Dec 15, 2010 8:56:50 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 15, 2010 18:13:09 GMT -5
I saw that!! It looks like a scene from Moonraker, or Lawnmower Man 2. The public again is being forced to take the "traitor vs hero" sides. It is sad. He is probably just an employee of an intelligence organization or two. I wonder whether the ultimate goal is control of the internet and it's content.
Today, Thom Hartman, a hard leftist, and another guy, a right winger were arguing on what's better, government or corporate control. Unbelievable
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Dec 16, 2010 5:55:52 GMT -5
I was initially under the impression that these were just some low-level whistle-blowers who got their hands on some sensitive materials. But when I saw that bunker I quickly realized that this group has some serious money backing. And that in my opinion can't be a good thing. Big money usually means powerful interests.
I believe that this may have at first began as an honest group with reasonable intentions and modest resources. However at some point big cash bribes started to funnel in and that is how the operation is being co-opted. Regardless it WILL be used to stoke fears for regulating the Internet.
The lines have become blurred in terms of the good guy vs. the bad. The bad guys always seem to infiltrate. It's sad too because if ever there is a truly independent group, no one will trust them anyway.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 17, 2010 23:20:28 GMT -5
If roads lead to Israel, the Mossad, CIA, or Big Business, you can be sure they are phonies. In this case, the fact that Israel is mentioned nowhere, and Assange attacks Iran, and 911 Truthers, it is a dead giveaway, at least to people like us.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Dec 19, 2010 11:26:08 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 20, 2010 21:31:52 GMT -5
This is absolute Horse Shit. It has Israel written all over it.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Dec 21, 2010 2:50:26 GMT -5
You have to hand it to them. They are indeed the masters of deception. They knew that the public has grown weary of official government sources in terms of providing evidence for such matters. So they created this entire Wikileaks operation to create a false impression of a rogue network which the people could trust to reveal the truth about world events. They even set up a fall guy to make it appear even more believable. To make it seem as if the government was really upset by the prospect of this matter. Then once they felt that the public was buying in to it, they hit the switch and started planting information that they wanted to release all along in hopes that the people would now trust this new "unbiased" source. No wonder they're now claiming that this network has become redundant and impossible to stop at this point. They never wanted to stop it to begin with.
It's a lot like how the false left/right paradigm is used in the media. Like with 9/11. Right-wingers would always tell me, "If there was proof that 9/11 was an inside job the NY Times would be all over it". This argument requires that you buy in to the good guy media/bad guy media scenario. This group is on my side, and the other side isn't therefore I can always trust the political source which typically represents my personal views. But once you realize the sheer illusion of this separation it all falls apart. Neither is on your side, EVER.
The Wikileaks operation is an even more complex version of this political bait and switch. The odd part about this is the position that it places the Republicans in. Will they still want to put a cap on these leaks if the information begins to suit them as in the case of WMDs allegedly found in Iraq? Will Bill O'reilly still be calling for executions? Will all whistle blowers have to be executed now? Think about the precedents that this whole ordeal might create.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 22, 2010 23:33:15 GMT -5
The fact that the government allowed all of this so-called classified information to come unchecked through Zio-Media. They could have stopped it at any point
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Dec 23, 2010 2:46:07 GMT -5
That's true too.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 24, 2010 18:18:09 GMT -5
I think the majority of people are beyond left vs right, but the Zio-Media keeps the illusion up. The response I get from people is "They are all crooks". The Wikileaks scam shows the USA as the only bad guys, when we know it is much bigger than that. Keep the spotlight off Israel at all costs. So what is Goyim USA and Europe fall, in their minds.
The problem is getting people into action. For instance, with this new Food Fascism bill just passed, will most people start getting their food from small local organic farms? They will probably just shop at Whole Foods, which has every intention on putting GMO on it's shelves. All the Obamatrons keep thinking the Democrats are on their side, as the OReiilyites think the Republicans are on their side.
Also, the fear of stepping out of line, and having a SWAT team and/or FBI watching you. I have already downloaded this entire site, so if they shut down sites that question authority, we will pop up somewhere else. TPTB knows damn well if they shut down the internet, it is a sure sign that total control is in place, and they don't want most people to know that. We'll just pass data on discs to each other. Stay off those "Cloud Services" BTW.
Then again.......there is the nuking of Houston, Dallas, or St Louis to straighten up the population.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Dec 26, 2010 5:05:03 GMT -5
People need to erase the empty concept of "parties" in terms of partisan politics. They tend to abandon one party in exchange for a "new" one and end up in the same place with just a different title. Namely, the Tea Party for example. The American people need to pride themselves on being separate individuals with independent thoughts, beliefs and opinions. No labels, not even "Independent". Just as soon as you assume such a title, the media attempts to place you in to a neat little box and release loaded surveys which plant subtle suggestions in to your mind about how people "like you" should vote and think. I've come to realize that political polls are devices of mass mind control. They exploit the weakness of human nature which is the desire to fit in to and conform to a larger group. "Well, if I'm an 'Independent' then I guess I should vote this way because the majority in this particular poll are also doing so". As much as people don't want to admit to thinking that way, they do. Even if only at a subconscious level that they aren't even fully aware of.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 26, 2010 18:26:35 GMT -5
Maybe" None of the Above Party" or "Common Sense Party".
The best would be multiple parties, not just a third, since we see how the Tea Party was hijacked by Right Wing Corporate interests. You could be sure that is a left-leaning third party, made up of Green, Labor, and Anti-War would also be hijacked by Democrat corporatists.
The population is distracted by Gay issues, Snookie and Jersey Shore, Lady Gaga, abortion, TSa groping, Perpetual War, Osama Bin "I'm Dead" Goldstein/Laden, Economy collapse, etc. Now, I'm all for gays getting married, pot legalization, but when people realize that all of these are all interconnected, then we'll see a change. Until then, we just have to be realists, and call their shit whenever we can.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Dec 27, 2010 6:32:02 GMT -5
When I vote, I vote as an American. That's it. And not the gratuitous flag waving, false-patriot cheerleader type either. Just an American capable of seeing fault whenever necessary and also building upon what's functional in this country.
I believe there was an attempt by the left to create a 'Coffee Party' to counteract the 'Tea Party'. What does that mean? Rupert Murdoch funded puppets vs. George Soros funded puppets.
The one thing that I've found about grassroots liberals is that they aren't anywhere near as organized and rabid for their causes as the conservatives are. It doesn't matter anyway. Neither side works for true American concerns. They just muddle the debate with irrelevant wedge issues.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Dec 27, 2010 16:17:15 GMT -5
Same with Wikileaks. The media has drawn the line in the sand as far as Assange goes. Traitor or Hero.
The American public realizes that something is terribly wrong, but cannot fathom the idea that we are all part of a military-grade mind control experiment.
The trick for us who realize this is:
1) Stay healthy - Find local, organic farms and non-GMO food 2) Stay informed - What would we do if the internet gets shut down? 3) Realize the Elite are wiping out the middle class, and take action.
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