Local newspaper recieves Chem concern letter

[chickenlittle]

Hi everyone, I just read in our local paper a letter written by a woman from Canada.
She is writing pertaining to chemtrails,finally someone else speaks up.....
I am going to type what she wrote as our little paper does not show all bits of the paper on its online site,one other note in case it is a bit confusing we are only about 16 miles across the water from Canada and right on the border here our local area is only home to aprox.60,000 so it is far and few between to hear someone speak at all on this issue:
What's In The Sky???

Sometimes I wonder if I am the only one who looks up at our sky and wonders what
the heck is going on with crazy streams cutting up the endless blue above.
It was May 30 when I awoke around 6 a.m.
The skies were generally clear,the start of another beautiful day on the west coast
of Canada.But by 9 a.m there were more than 50 long white trails around the skies over Vancouver Island-gently dissapating and contrasting into the overcast haze that covered Victoria.I sit and look at what should be a very clear blue sky like the one I remember from growing up,and wonder:
How can we let this happen right in front of our eyes?Can't everyone see this?
As a community and a nation we need to ask some serious questions:
What are these trails?
They are increasing in number and consistency with each passing month.They leave obvious patterns of grid marks over the top of morning walks and evening BBQ's.
These are NOT contrails that are emmissions from jet liners and and dissapate entirely moments after being let out of the planes engine:
What are these?CHEM TRAILS that stick around and fan out for hours after being emitted by unmarked planes.Is this a governments plan to counteract global warmimg -spraying alumininum oxides layer over our skies to block out just enough sun to allow the fossil fuel industry to continue to prosper?
There are countless sites of information web sites regarding these chemtrails such as www.chemtrails911.com/index.htm.
they have been noticed all over North America and a lot of people are asking questions.
How does the continuous spraying of aluminium oxide affect our environment and our bodies?Our Childrens bodies?Our pets bodies?
the food we are growing?
This is a toxic substance that has been proven to have devastating effects on the nervous system of all living creatures.
The side effects are entirely horrific.We wonder where all the cancers and myterious migrane headaches come from.
never mind buying organic anything anymore as it are being poisened from the sky.
We need to stand together as a community and a nation,notice the patterns in the sky and talk about it with our neighbors.
Please look up!
Natashia Byrd
Victoria




chicky

[BigJoe]

Reading this is very encouraging. People are gradually waking up to this nightmare in our skies.

My big question though... will enough people wake up in time? I'm getting the distinct feeling that our time to act on this is quickly running out.

[chickenlittle]

I agree completely,I responded to her letter in the paper and backed her up also mentioned lets not forget the barium!!!! I know that there will be someone who will write in and say something ridiculous to make us look foolish .They will take everyones mind off the trails completely by saying we are crazy conspiricy nuts with bad letter writing grammer.(That's how people are) stupid!
Anyways I agree it seems to be coming to a head,as she states it is heavier all the time and the first thing this morning I awoke to beautiful blue skies and they have already started saturating the sky.That means today is already shot.Just like that.In my response in support letter I mentioned another part that we don't discuss much,but seems to be what most would be concerned with more than their health and that is :WHO is DOING it and WHO is PAYING for it,talk about the pocket book and that usually gets people of today to listen.
take care
chicky

[chickenlittle]

Hi, here is a response I wrote to the gal who wrote the first letter and then after is a response from a man in a city 15 miles from me who of course as you will read is writing to us as though we are very stupid:
good reading though and encouraging that this back and forth debate is going on in the daily newspaper:


I would like to let Natasha Bird know that she is certainly not alone.
I too,as do many others, know of these chem-trails you spoke of.
They are on a daily basis and I know that it is just not normal.
I have done research as well on line and as you mentioned the aluminum
oxide,lets not forget trace amounts of barium as well.
Recently a Los Angeles news reporter did a piece on Chem-trails.
People in these areas were getting ill even though they were generally
healthy.
In the same manner even here in the Northwest after days of heavy
spraying there are more problems with my family having headaches,joint
aches and sinus problems.
Another question,one that probably will concern more people than any
other issue pertaining to these trails,is:
Who is doing the "everlasting trail" work and who is paying for these
services?
Is it the U.S Air Force? Are we citizens paying for this jet fuel that
assists in making a beautiful sunny day turn into a sky full of
hazy,long lasting jet trail clouds?
I agree that perhaps we do need to ask more questions and I do look up
every day and am extremely surprised how many people don't.
maybe Chicken little was right all along when he warned "The Sky is
falling"Or even more accurate may be a line from an old blues song"The Sky Is Crying"

Clare


And here is my LESSON??? from the man who wrote back in reply to our concerns about chem trails
CHEMTRAILS? Phooey!
I can't beleive that folks see and read information on the internet and take this as 100 percent true and accurate.
This chemtrail issue(June 2nd Peninsula voices,"Whats in the sky?" and "Chemtrails seen")has been around for years.
Let's stop and think for a minute,and go back to high school science class.
Does anybody recall them teaching about the weather and more specifically the dewpoint?
Many of us have seen World War II videos and film footage of the fleets of bomber aircraft forming up over England to drop bombs on the Nazi's.
Now are those chemtrails from those airplanes too?
If so why did they drop bombs on them why not just chemtrail them to death?
The answer,is no,those are know as contrails,and these aircraft had engines much like the cars of today.
They are what's known as piston pounders,or very much like your cars engine.
They had exhaust pipes like cars thast left trails of water vapor and pollutants.
We know this as smog,and today aircraft have what is called high by-pass gas turbine engines.
Now lets do an internet search on atmospheric pressure and temperature.
What did you find out?
Well,it's very cold at 40,000 feet-below zero.
We would find that when the exhaust gasses leave thje tailpipe,they very quickly freeze and form ice crystals which we see as long,thin clouds or contrails.
Yes,there are some trace amounts of other stuff in there but no more than comes out the tailpipe of your family car!
e. Miiller


BigJoe,
I would love to hear what you have to say about this guys letter.I find it so obnoxious that he speaks to us like we are totally stupid and tells that he can't believe that people take what they read on the internet as truth and then the first thing he does to try to back up his boggus explanation is qoute the internet,
Like my husband said this guy is way off as far as what he says because first of all we were not talking about bombers we were taking about modern day jets,and that I NEVER EVER said at what altitude these jets I spoke of, were flying.
Anyways, I would like your opinion or anyones I am really hyped right now and a little upset but I figured the first thing that would happen is they would say we were crazy.
Chicky

[Thetaloops]

Heard it from a pilot who spoke real goooood.

www.noble-gas.com/Johnnyspray.mp3

www.noble-gas.com/johnnysprayx.html

This guy is another Johnny Spray. He denies commonsense. With all of the proof that these are not normal contrails, he is only convincing the uninformed or those with blinders on.

Chicky congratulations for speaking out about this. Chemtrails exist. How would someone like him explain why one day there are chemtrails and the next there are none. Especially on a weekday when you know there is just as much normal air traffic. There are so may pictures of these patterns of spraying, where the same plane goes back and forth. What normal purpose would they have to fly back and forth, other then to be laying down a grid.

There are so many different theories why they might be doing this. I tend to think it is to try and correct the ozone depletion, but I can't prove it. And why don't they tell us about it if it is for a positive purpose? One thing I do know for sure is that these are not normal contrials. This fellow is either working with them or is brain damages from sniffing the vapors.

[chickenlittle]

I love these Johnny Spray bits. You guys have definitely hit the nail on the head with these~~~~You artistry reminds me of the B-52's meets Mystery Science Theater
But with a much more important message base!

Yes,well I talked to 2 old gals and they didn't even realized I had written the letter about the trails,were telling me that they are going to start watching the skies because like the gal who wrote the letter said "they just don't look up enough".
When I told them it was me that wrote the letter they said "Please tell us more"so I obliged and also told them, now I am sure that some will write in to let everyone know that I am stupid and uneducated so as to keep anyone from listening to me in any way.
One of these old gals made the best point of all,she said well maybe but just think of all those like us,of who's attention you DID get so don't feel it was in vain.


chicky

[Swamp Gas]

chicky,

thanks for the kudos on Johnny Spray. We have begun to go live performances again, and it will be in th set list.

the "bonker bunkers" always come out of the woodwork whenever somebody writes an article on Aerosol mitigation. All graduates of the Jay Reynolds School of Ridicule and Pseudo-Science. IN fact, I have an email from Reynolds, with him saying that weather control DOES exist, but just not the amount us "Chemie Loonies" think. Of course, if you read his posts from 5 or 6 years ago, his stance was, "weather control does not exist". This was in relation to the weather control bill getting debated and the Chinese using it for the 2008 Olympics. I won't publish his email, since I even have respect for people I do not like too much. I think this softening stance is the fact that the government and corporations are done with the experimental stage, and now "officially" implementing. Personally, there is no need to bash Reynolds anymore, as he has been discredited and debunked enough, with his stances on Bush, Global Warming, War, and just about everything else.

[chickenlittle]

You are welcome Swamp,great stuff.Nice to know you will spreading the word live.
GO man GO!!!
chicky

[Thetaloops]

Hi Chicky,

Thanks also for the complements on Johnny Spray. I'm very excited about playing live again. We haven't played out live since 1998. It sure is the time to speak out.

I congratulate you for being so on top of things. It definitely is influencing the gals that you spoke to and I'm sure it will encourage others to look up more often.

We have to stick together even if we are far apart.

Theta

[chickenlittle]

I don't know if I am just being paranoid but I swear since the letters to the paper the Jets have slowed almost to nothing.The skies have been fairly normal.
I told my husband that I wouldn't doubt that this IS planned and that right after the letters were written that people will look up for a week or so and say it looks normal to me those 2 women are just idiots.And because the concentration span is slow short for Americans that when the jets return after a week or two that by that time people will have forgotten.
I don't know it just seems so odd that all of the sudden there just are not many at all.
chicky

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Many of us have seen World War II videos and film footage of the fleets of bomber aircraft forming up over England to drop bombs on the Nazi's.

Whenever I see this reference about WWII ,sirens go off,flags go up,etc.A debunker apprentice.

[BigJoe]

Chicky, my apologies to you that it's taken me so long to respond on this thread... things have been kind of rough around here these past two weeks for my wife and myself... as a very good friend of ours just passed away from cancer. The hospital finally sent him home because there was nothing more they could do for him, and two days later, he passed away. Sorry to burden you and everyone else with this... I've kind of been walking around in a trance since this has happened. He had just retired, was 63, and had just opened up a small winery, his lifelong dream, down along one of the Finger Lakes. He's the second close person to us who has died of cancer within the past three months... and I put the blame for this solely on those who are responsible for, and carrying out the chemtrail spraying, but I will spare you all and I won't go into my rant on the CT's and chemical/biological spraying here, or burden any of you with any of this. It happened, it's very painful, but life does have to go on.

Anyway...

My feeling is that this guy who reacted to your excellent letter is either some idiot who doesn't want to acknowledge the terrible truth and is in a complete state of denial, as are so many people over this, or he is a professional debunker, who is being financed by our hard earned tax dollars. If he's an idiot, they're are so many of them who seem to crawl out of the woodwork whenever the chemtrails are mentioned that I don't take these people seriously anymore. I thought your letter was great, and if he is nothing more than some ignorant schmuck, you must have definitely hit some nerve in him to make him take the time to sit down and react like that to your excellent letter. And if he's a professional dis-info... all the better, because that means you also hit a nerve, and it just shows that "they" are now doing everything they can to suppress and discredit this information when it goes mainstream. It was a truly excellent letter, and I just wish more concerned citizens, who are aware of the chemtrails, would do as you have done!!! Thanks to your letter, there are obviously a good number of new people who are now looking up at the sky. And these people will tell other people, who will tell other people, etc, etc, etc...



If I had to make a choice, I would say that it is the second of the two. I have noticed this with a number of other instances that involve the main stream media. With the budget that these people have for the aerosol spraying, I believe they have teams of people who do nothing else but scan the newspapers and other mainstream media outlets for people bringing up the chemtrail issue for the main purpose of debunking them. These people are desperate to keep this issue in the category of "conspiracy theory", and because of what would happen if this issue did go public, I believe that they will spare absolutely no expense in scanning ALL of the mainstream media for any sign that this issue is going public. And when this happens, they send in their debunker squads and do everything they can to keep this in the category of "conspiracy theory".

Several years ago something very interesting over at Chemtral Central happened regarding this. The website, "New York Subways. Org" had a number of photos taken in the 50's, 60's and 70's showing elevated subway trains and city transit busses with unmistakable, blatant spraying going on overhead. These photos PROVED that spraying was taking place even back then, without a doubt. And also, these photos had been posted on this website FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS!

In my thread over at CTC (sorry, I can't find it... Swamp, you remember that thread, don't you?) I was pointing out that the CT's had been around a lot longer than most people realized, and I posted direct links to those photos. And would you believe... within a HALF HOUR, those photos were gone!!! They had been pulled!!! A whole series of photos that had been there for at least FOUR YEARS were suddenly, within the half hour after I posted the link to them, PULLED FROM THE WEBSITE! Strange coincidence, wouldn't you think? My only explanation is that, as I said before, they have a whole department of people who do nothing else but scan the media, including the internet, for anything that they do not want to get into the publics hands, and will do whatever is necessary to suppress, or distort this information. After this, and a number of other debunking incidents over at CTC regarding the "history of chemtrails", I came to the distinct conclusion that they do not want the public to know that they have been spraying them with chemicals for AT LEAST fifty years! And they have good reason to feel this way... if the general public knew what all of us on this website knew, they would be out in the streets, perhaps even with guns, demanding an end to the spraying. So yes, if I were them, I too would be extremely paranoid, and do everything within my power to suppress, or distort any of this coming into the light.

I've read the response to your letter a number of times, and the more I read it, the more I think that this was some professional spook whose main job is to spend their entire day, or night, searching for the growing number of letters, articles and programs that are now starting to surface in the mainstream media about the chemtrails. I find it extremely interesting that this individual was familiar with the chemtrails to such an extent, and had an argument already at hand. He sounded very much like the professional spooks that we used to have to deal with over at CTC on a regular basis. I've seen them quickly respond to other letters around the country to chemtrails, and their writting styles all seem to have a similiar "signature" to them. After awhile, one acquires the skill of spotting these cockroaches from a mile away!

Whenever I get a response like you have just gotten here, I always feel very good, because I know that I have hit a very sensitive nerve on their very paranoid, and extremely evil mindset.

Keep up the good work!!!

[chickenlittle]

Thanks BigJoe, my thoughts are with you and your wife on the loss of your friend.
I hope that your hearts will begin to lighten a bit as each day goes by and that not the overwhelming saddness of death,but the happiness of good and long developed memories will make a home in your hearts and minds instead.

I was very interested in a reply from you because I know and have read a lot of your entries here and respect your opinion.Especially on Geo engineering.
I did see the pics before that you had of the trains.I too like to see if I can find trails and I do it by looking for them in old movies(my favorites)
I have oddly enough seen some strange skies in some old western type movies and I do believe that they were filmed on locations and are real skies and not sets.
This man that responded made my husband upset,because he uses the I WAS IN THE AIR FORCE I AM A VET!
I and my husband believe that this is done because most people are going to believe someone who fought in a war more than myself.
BUT>>>>>>>>>however he is WRONG WRONG WRONG about the fuel stuff,my husband is smart enough to know that and even my father in law who is an old Navy man(who incidently does not like the masons or Bildebergs ect.)
said that that man knew damn good and well that I wasn't talking about antiquated bomber planes and that the man was definately an asshole.
One other thing that happened that was odd (I mentioned this before and I thought perhaps I was just being paranoid)But a couple of days after my letter,There was a truck that showed up and the men said that they were removing a pole around in front of the house a pole by the way which had been there for years and suddenly they decide to remove it for the city, only it wasn't a city truck! Also the pole is still there the only thing different is that the phone wire now has a bright orange something attached to it up high on this pole.
So 3 odd bits surrounding this are: 1:The pole they said needed to be removed -wasn't (even though this took them about an hour)
2: a new Bright ORANGE adapter is there now and
3:The men who were supposedly doing this for the city were not even in an official city truck but in a truck that is a bussiness truck that is owned by one of the big wig's of the city.
It does leave me a bit weirded out!
Anyways Thanks so much again, Bigjoe!
Feel Better soon.
chicky