Record Heat this Week!!!

[BigJoe]

East struggles to beat heat
Outages prompt evacuations of elderly in Chicago

www.cnn.com/2006/WEATHER/08/01/heat.wave.ap/index.html

Tuesday, August 1, 2006; Posted: 9:54 a.m. EDT (13:54 GMT)

NEW YORK (AP) -- The lights that decorate the city's East River bridges will remain off to save power, as the city braces for potentially record breaking heat. It's one of many conservation tactics across the country during soaring temperatures from the Midwest to the Northeast.

With heat and humidity expected to reach unsafe levels Tuesday, New York City residents braced for blistering temperatures and officials warned that inhaling the city's heavy summer air could become dangerously difficult.

The National Weather Service predicted that temperatures could break the record for the date, set in 1933 when the temperature reached 100 degrees in Central Park. (Watch whether scorching temperatures will affect you -- 2:50)

"It's going to be very difficult to breathe. The air is going to be very thick," said Nancy Figueroa, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service. "The young and the old should be very careful to stay in cool places, because it's very dangerous."

Restaurant worker James Freeson, dragging a box-laden cart up a sidewalk incline near Madison Square Garden early Tuesday, said he knows how to stay cool.

"I'm from the Caribbean; we learn to deal with that," said the 56-year-old Antigua native, now a Brooklyn resident.

His advice to fellow New Yorkers? "Drink water and stay calm."

Things weren't much better in other parts of the country.

The sort of heat that blistered California last week hung over the Midwest on Monday, endangering millions of people with outdoor jobs and prompting communities to throw air-conditioned buildings open to the public. (Full story)

In Missouri, at least 14 deaths since July 12 are blamed on the heat, said Brian Quinn, a spokesman for the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services. Among them was a 71-year-old woman who died in St. Louis during the weekend.

In Chicago, where the temperature Monday tied a record 99 for the date, a power failure late in the day in the city's South Side left up to 20,000 people without electricity.

With more hot weather in the offing for Tuesday, officials said some residents, chiefly the elderly, were taken to cooling buses and dormitories. It was not immediately clear if the outage was caused by the heat.

"It's a mess," said Lenora Stinson, 47, who was in an 11th floor apartment when the power went out. "It's a big mess. Everybody's panicking -- they don't know where they're going." But Stinson said firefighters were doing a good job of getting old people out.

Temperatures across the Midwest and Plains approached or exceeded 100 degrees, and the heat index -- a measure of temperature plus humidity -- passed 110 degrees in spots.

The Midwest could get some relief by Wednesday, but the worst of the heat was expected to drift east on Tuesday, bringing scorching temperatures to New York, Washington and Boston.

[BigJoe]

Swamp, you guys doing OK down in the NYC area? I know even worse down there than it is up here in Rochester.

Man, it's even freaking too hot up here in Rochester... supposed to hit 100 today here as well!!!

Hope everybody else is doing OK?

[BigJoe]

Freaking bush and the neocons...

Record heat across the country and the world, global warming rearing it's ugly head , not only in our backyards, but our very living rooms as well, and the only answers we get from these sickos is more wars, and we gotta win this stupid war or terrorism.

I'll tell you where the terror is coming from... from right up above us. Not only from these chemicals they're dumping on us all the time, but from that glowing sun searing down on us. Our little planet is sick now, it has a raging fever, and these assholes we've "elected" into office couldn't give TWO SHITS about ANY of this! They just care about giving us more wars!

We think it was bad here in the Northeast... many places out west had to endure temperatures between 110-115 degrees for 7 days or more last week!!!

Freaking global warming should be our number one concern now!!! This is where this stupid "war on terror" of bushs' should be focused now... NOT on killing innocent people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and many other places!

You'd think maybe they'd stop all their insane spraying programs because of all this... YEAH, RIGHT!!!

I'm f***ing pissed off!!!

[David]

It's been a wee-bit hot here in N. Calif. Hottest day so far was 117 degrees in the shade of our deck, thats about 120 in the sun.
We are now surrounded by raging forest and grass fires, thiick smoke and very unhealthy air.

[BigJoe]

David, the hottest I ever remember being in was 115 degrees, many years ago, when I worked as a pipefitter working in the main steam tunnel that transferred high pressure steam from the heating plant to the main complex of a large institution. I remember that it was virtually unbearable working in those conditions for longer than 20-30 minutes at a time, and they wouldn't let us work in there for periods of longer than 30 minutes without coming out for a break! When we came out of there, we would be dizzy, weak, and physically sick. I can't imagine being in those conditions for an extended period of time.

That fact that this global warming problem isn't being addressed by our "elected" officials completly astounds me. These "representatives" of ours just sit on their fat asses and do absolutely nothing, except pick up their fat pay checks, paid for by us! The real "terror" isn't over in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, etc, etc., etc. We're on a planet that's extremey ill, is running a very high fever, and could very well be dying.

I really feel for all of you out there. Here it's ONLY 95 degrees, yet it's extremely uncomfortable being outside for any extended period. I can't imagine living in those temperatures for so long... yet unfortunately, I have a very unsettling feeling that this kind of weather will be commonplace here as well in the very near future, perhaps even as early as this summer.

From what I've been seeing on the weather charts and the data lately, it wouldn't suprise me if many areas of the planet the farther south one goes, become virtually uninhabitable during the summer months..., and I'm not talking about decades, but very likely within the next few years, if even that, the way things are going. And unfortunately, you can't trust anything that you hear about this from the government or the news media. This is the age of deceptions and lies!

[Swamp Gas]

104 Down here BigJoe. Very humid. We have to sprinkle the plants a bit a night so they won't dry up.

The hottest I remember was 121 in Phoenix in 1978, working on digging a pool for ManPower. What a forsaken place that was!!!!

[BigJoe]

Good to hear you guys are doing OK and surviving the heat down there Swamp. We're doing ok as well, but the cats are sure having a rough time. I don't think those thick fur coats of theirs help any.

104... that must be some kind of heat record down there... let's see... I'll check the weather data...

Well, here it is, straight from the horses mouth, the National Weather Service for the NYC area, just as I suspected, looks like you guys broke a heat record today...

The old record was 100 °F / 37 °C, set way back in 1933!

Looks like it's going to be even hotter tomorrow for the entire eastern half of the country...

Northeast
Record or near-record heat will blister much of the Northeast tomorrow. In some locations, all-time records could be challenged. Heat indices will soar to extremely dangerous levels, perhaps reaching 115 to 120 degrees in the hottest spots. While highs in the 90s will be widespread, maxima reaching or exceeding the century mark will extend from southern New England southward through eastern Virginia. All of the major cities along the Eastern Seaboard can expect to broil in 100-degree readings. Only far northern New England and northern New York are likely to enjoy somewhat cooler conditions thanks to a southward-drifting cold front. That front will trigger scattered showers and thunderstorms, a few of which could be severe. The storms are expected to migrate southward through the remainder of New York and New England tomorrow night.

South
Hot, humid, oppressive conditions will continue to blanket the South tomorrow with high temperatures punching into the 90s and low 100s. A few spots may garner transitory relief from scattered afternoon and evening thunderstorms, but even those will be limited. The lucky locations are most likely to be in parts of the Southeast, the southern Appalachians, far western Texas and western Oklahoma.

[altitudelou]

Hi Guy's,

Glad to hear that you all seem to be fairing well through this blistering, humid heat, I have not faired so well, went down due to heat exhaustion on the 19th of July and I'm just now getting back on my feet, it's been a rough couple of weeks for me and I still don't dare try to do anything outside, it's just to hot and humid and I'm still feeling a bit weak, on the mend though.

It's only 87 degrees here but the due point is 72, the air is so thick you could cut it with a knife, you break out in a sweat just standing outside for a few minutes, it's been like this for weeks now.

lately I have been thinking about what the climate scientist have been saying about global warming and how the northern climates would be experiencing hotter and more prolonged hot weather effects, If the past five years or so are a true indicator of global warming then we are in it big time.

You all stay cool,...........Lou.

[DannyRock]

The heat wasn't too bad yesterday but it was really bad today... The air quality was so bad that I could only stay outside for a few minutes at a time... I'm not really sure hot it was but it had to be over a hundred and five at one point but weather bug says that it was only 98...The temperature is reading 80.9 degrees right now with 87 percent humidity. There was a severe thunderstorm warning issued a little while ago but I don't think we're going to see any real rain for a while.

[David]

Wow Lou sounds like you really had a bad time, sorry to hear that. Lot's of people around here were affected the same way, layed them out for days or weeks. I hope you heal soon.

I have a feeling this is just the tip of what is coming our way in the very near future. Clear Lake, the lake we live next to, is showing signs of being in trouble. Fish by the thousands have begun to die off, some areas are literally covered with floating fish.
The water in one marina down the road is covered with thousands of shad, carp, bass and many other species and it is happening all over the lake. This lake is 27 miles long and 5 wide.
Last week the surface temp hit an astounding 90 degrees, far too hot.

[DannyRock]

The temperature right now according to weatherbug as well as my Jeep's thermometer is 96 degrees and it's been that hot since 11:00... I'm standing by at the firehouse because the idiots at the power company are planning to cut power, according to our emergency dispatch, to the entire city at any moment... At least we have a generator so we wont be affected by it too much but it's gonna suck for those people down in the middle of the City of Stamford who don't have generators and need the power to keep from roasting in this heat. Yesterday was bad not only because of the heat but also the air quality and if they cut the power then, then there would have been quite a few people making trips to the hosital... As it is, I'm surprised that we haven't had any fatalities from this heat wave yet here as far as I know...

The official temperature was fluctuating between 96.0 and 97.2 degrees but has now climbed to 97.4... Ummmmmmmmmmmmm make that 98 degrees with an occasional 1 mph wind gust... The heat index at this time is 111 degrees so I really ain't thinking about spending too much time outside today...

Uh Oh. A level two emergency has just been declared for all the firehouses and all available personal have been ordered to report to their stations due to the power outage which hasn't hit us up here yet...

[altitudelou]

Thanks David,

I'm doing alright now but I did have two really bad weeks, dizziness, body aching, cramps all over, diarrhea for eight straight days and nights, I was a hurting puppy for sure, I'm back on my feet and feeling pretty much normal again but I'm in no hurry to get back outside and work in this heat, think I'll wait for some cooler weather.

I was outside for a short time today and the temperature was 96 degrees, the humidity was 84 % with a due point of 73, not very nice at all, I started to get dizzy so I retreated inside into the AC and remained there for the rest of the day.

We got a break about 6:30 PM, thunder storms started rolled through and took the temperature from 96 down to 79 in a matter of a half hour, as the storms passed the humidity dropped down considerably, it's actually quite nice out right now at 8:40 PM, feels good.

[altitudelou]

Taken from The Conway Daily Sun news paper / by subscription only.

Local conditions as of Aug 2, 6:40 PM EDT

Northern New England bakes under heat and humidity
By CLARKE CANFIELD
Associated Press Writer

OLD ORCHARD BEACH, Maine (AP) -- Rick Wadowski figured out how to beat the heat Wednesday.

With the sun beating and the humidity hanging, Wadowski plopped himself down in the sand at the water's edge, made himself comfortable and let the cool ocean waves roll over him.

As temperatures rose into the upper 90s and the heat index soared to more than 105, people across northern New England flocked to beaches and water parks and sought out air conditioning.

At Old Orchard Beach, thousands of people crowded the beach and waded and floated in the ocean for relief. Dressed in a swim suit, Wadowski sat in the water with friends and family members.









"I'm from Connecticut, and I know it's a lot worse down there," he said. "I'm beating the heat right here at the beach."

Wednesday was the hottest day of the year, with temperatures hitting 97 degrees in Sanford and 94 in Portland. Along with the humidity, the heat index - a measure of how hot it really feels - hit 107 in Sanford and 105 in Portland, according to the National Weather Service.

In New Hampshire, Manchester broke its previous record for Aug. 2, reaching 97 degrees. The old record of 91 degrees was set in 1938. Nashua hit 98 degrees with a heat index of 111 degrees, while Portsmouth felt like it was 110. In Vermont, the heat index hit 101 degrees in Burlington.

Derek MacDermott and his family come to Old Orchard Beach from Westford, Mass., every year to get away from the heat. But with the air feeling like a furnace, it was hard to escape the heat Wednesday.

Because their rental condominium didn't have air conditioning, MacDermott took a short trip in his car Wednesday morning just for the air conditioning. He loaded up a cooler with bottled water and soda for the beach, and he was considering going to a movie later in the day to cool down.

"I just get in the water and stay cool and try to make it though the day," he said.

As hot as it was on the beach, it was hotter in the kitchen at Rocco's Pizza, a take-out on the town's main strip. There, 15-year-old George Rosa was hit with 450-degree blasts whenever he opened the oven door.

Rosa tried in vain to keep cool by making regular visits to the eatery's walk-in cooler or simply by walking around to create a breeze to cool his skin.

"And I dream of going swimming in the ocean," he said.

In New Hampshire, a paving crew in Newington measured their work site at 103 degrees. When it gets that hot, frequent breaks inside an air-conditioned truck cab are understandable.

Fred McQuesten of Litchfield said he's been working on road crews for more than 20 years, and this is the hottest summer he can remember.

Andy LePage, another crew member, said dealing with the heat is "mind over matter." "Things just don't happen as fast," he said.

At Pierce Island Pool, the municipal pool in Portsmouth, Leslie Garrett said she isn't bothered too much by the heat.

"It's pretty unbearable out here, but I love it," she said. "We'll be scraping our windshields before you know it."

At Plymouth State University, teams from New Hampshire and Vermont cut practices short in preparation for Saturday's Shrine Maple Sugar Bowl, which pits the best just-graduated high school football players from the two states.

The heat also put a halt to dog races at Seabrook Greyhound Park in Seabrook, N.H. Dogs were being kept in air-conditioned kennels.

The University of Southern Maine canceled classes and activities at noon because of health and safety concerns about the heat.

In the afternoon, the weather service put out warnings for thunderstorms in Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire with damaging winds and heavy rains.

The heat put an exclamation point on what has been a hot stretch of weather.

July was the second-warmest month on record for any month in Portland, said National Weather Service meteorologist Andy Pohl. Portland's average minimum temperature in July was the warmest on record for any month.

But it's the high dew points - a measurement of condensation in the air - that has caught forecasters' attention.

"Nobody remembers the last time we had dew points in the mid-70s," Pohl said.

© 2006 The Associated Press.

[BigJoe]

Phew!!!, boy is it hot tonight!!!

It got up to 96 degrees here today, but with a high humidity and dew point factored in, it felt a LOT hotter than that!

Presently, it's 86 degrees at 10:30 P.M., here in the Genesee Valley region near Rochester, New York. The air is hot, sticky, sultry and heavy, making it hard to breath. Don't ever remember it feeling, or being so hot this late at night, and I'm dripping with sweat as I type this out. Nope, our house isn't air conditioned. I keep trying to tell myself that this isn't the tropics, but we're up here near the Canadian border on the shores of Lake Ontario in Northeastern US.

And so ends another day in Bizarro World.

[BigJoe]

www.cnn.com/2006/WEATHER/08/03/heat.wave.ap/index.html

Triple digit heat is killing us

People are dying. Sweltering temperatures drained life out of 164 Californians last week, and just since Sunday, heat is suspected of killing 20 across the country. A New England resident says it's "Texas hot," and zookeepers are feeding lions frozen blood to cool off.


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Heat wave burning up sports world

Triple-digit torture leaves millions in misery
Soaring temperatures blamed in dozens of deaths

Thursday, August 3, 2006; Posted: 9:13 a.m. EDT (13:13 GMT)

Heat advisories are up across the country

Dangerously hot in Midwest, East

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NEW YORK (AP) -- As if another day of triple-digit temperatures wasn't bad enough, Queens grocer Salm Ali had another problem: a power outage forced him to pitch about $5,000 worth of withered produce.

His Liberty Deli and Grocery was just one of thousands of energy customers across the eastern United States that experienced scattered blackouts Wednesday as the oppressive heat and humidity prompted record-setting demand.

"This is the life," Ali said sarcastically. "Even the fan isn't working."

The region was in for another day of steamy weather Thursday. The heat wasn't expected to break until evening, when a cold front should force temperatures down into the 80s, said National Weather Service meteorologist Bill Simpson.

The National Weather Service again posted heat warnings from Massachusetts to South Carolina and in parts of Oklahoma. Since Sunday, authorities have confirmed heat played a role in at least 13 deaths and suspect it played a role in seven more. (Watch to see what may follow the hottest seven months ever -- 1:44)

The same heat wave was blamed for as many as 164 deaths last week in California.

In Boston autopsy results were pending on a pregnant woman who died Saturday after collapsing at a sweltering Red Sox game and suffering an apparent heart attack. A medical team was able to deliver her 4-pound infant at a hospital. (Watch the husband describe how his wife became clammy and died -- 1:41)

In Kentucky, an 18-month-old boy was found dead Wednesday inside a van about 60 miles northeast of Lexington. In Illinois, at least six heat-related deaths have been confirmed in Cook County since Sunday, and police believe that another six deaths in Chicago Wednesday could be heat-related. Four deaths were reported in Maryland, including three elderly victims who did not have air conditioning, officials said.

In Oklahoma, authorities said a 92-year-old man found near his car Tuesday died of heat related-causes. In Pennsylvania, a 74-year-old custodian was found dead in his bed. An autopsy indicated he died of acute heart disease aggravated by the heat, the coroner said.

By late afternoon Wednesday, the temperature had risen to 101 at LaGuardia Airport, but it felt like 106. Hartford, Connecticut; Providence, Rhode Island; and Taunton, Massachusetts; also hit 100 degrees. The mercury hit 99 at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, and Baltimore and Philadelphia each climbed into the upper 90s. (Details)

Even on Cape Cod, which is usually a haven during the steamiest summer weather, residents were buckling. Carla Sullivan, the dockmaster at Hyannis Marina, said she saw people dousing a dog with water after the animal collapsed from heat stroke.

"The water just pours off of you," said Sullivan. "This is Texas hot."

Utility officials urged people to resist cranking up air conditioners amid heavy electric demand. Consolidated Edison, the utility that serves customers in and around New York City, set its second record in two days for peak demand. The Long Island Power Authority and ISO New England also reported record-setting energy use.

In Queens many residents found themselves in the dark again after recovering from a 10-day outage in late July. That included Ali, the grocer, who said he had to throw out $17,000 worth of produce last time.

Some Massachusetts residents were thrown into the dark Wednesday night because of thunderstorms, while in Stamford, Connecticut, Connecticut Light & Power cut electricity to some downtown businesses after two circuits failed.

In New York City, teams patrolled the streets, looking for homeless people and encouraging them to head to air-conditioned drop-in centers, carrying water and checking for dehydration. Officials in Washington, D.C. also were going door-to-door to get people to go to cooling centers, said Mark Brown, deputy director of the city's Emergency Management Agency.
Concerts, zoos, sports affected

As a precaution, the Dixie Chicks postponed an outdoor concert at Jones Beach Amphitheater on Long Island. In Fitchburg, Massachusetts, about 40 people attending a Warped Tour outdoor concert were taken to a hospital and treated for dehydration.

In Boston, animals at the Franklin Park Zoo were kept cool with sprinklers and frozen treats. The African wild dogs and lions got frozen blood; the primates received frozen fruit juice.

"It's a matter of taste, I guess," zoo president John Linehan said.

The broiling heat also took its toll on the sports world. The New England Patriots canceled "Patriots Experience," a football-themed entertainment area for children that was supposed to run at the team's training camp Wednesday. Washington Redskins coach Joe Gibbs cut his players a break by pushing back their practice session to 7 p.m. (Full story)

[altitudelou]

10/3/06

No doubt about it, this heat across the country is bad news for humans and animals alike.

We are lucky here in Maine and the northern half of New Hampshire today as cool Canadian air has moved down into our area, temperatures are in the 70's and very comfortable, the humidity is a bit high but with the relief of the 70 degree temps it's not bad at all.

All of our local weather forecasters are surprised and shocked by this heat wave gripping the country, with every update on it they are talking all around the "Global Warming" issue without really coming out and saying this heat wave is being caused by it, they are staying just a hair away from placing the blame on Global Warming.

One actually said that "Global Warming could very well be playing a big part in this unprecedented hot weather around the planet" but stopped shot of saying that it was definitely the cause.

Have you noticed this song and dance act the local and national forecasters are doing lately, it's so obvious that they want to say "Global Warming" but it's like their producers are just off camera holding a gun to their heads, enforcing the NO GLOBAL WARMING TALK RULE, do they really think we don't know what's going on with regard to Global Warming and how it's changing the world climate?

[DannyRock]

For the second day in a row all emergency personnel were told to report to their stations because of the power company shutting off the power in parts of Stamford... I heard that power was cut to corporations and businesses and that parts of downtown Stamford looked like a ghost town The temperature once again reached into the triple digits with a reaading of 100 degrees in the shade... The temperature cooled off a bit around 5:00 PM when we got a drop of rain and I do mean a drop... We were supposed to get a major thunderstorm but all we got was a drop or two...

Last night while attending a parade in South Salem, NY I noticed that the sky ws filled with trails that glowed sort of an orangish pink with jets making more of them... It was so hot last night that at least one cop that I talked to said that last night was the first time in 18 years that he was unable to wear his vest...

Today the sky was filled with a white haze and sickly looking black clouds that looked more like smoke than they did clouds. Reports were coming in of people passing out due to the heat and people having problems due to the power outage because they had medical devices that needed electricity to operate... There were also quite a few reports of people being stuck in elevators when the power went out...

Right now the temperature is 76 degrees with 81 percent humidity with a slight chance of showers... Tomorrow it's supposed to by 85 degrees with showers and thunderstorms.

[altitudelou]

Oh, this is rich, you have to laugh at A-Holes like this or pick up a gun and go hunting.

Conservative Christian Pat Robertson who once promoted oil exploration and denounced global warming as pure fiction has now changes his mind, due to the wave of scorching temperatures across the United States which has converted him into a believer in global warming.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14171691/

This HYPOCRITE goes on to say,...

“We really need to address the burning of fossil fuels,” Robertson said on his “700 Club” broadcast. “It is getting hotter, and the icecaps are melting and there is a buildup of carbon dioxide in the air.”
"This week the heat index, the perceived temperature based on both air temperatures and humidity, reached 115 Fahrenheit in some regions of the East Coast. The 76-year-old Robertson told viewers that was “the most convincing evidence I’ve seen on global warming in a long time.”

___________________________________

What a SCHMUCK this snake oil salesman is, after all of the Global Warming Bashing he's done on behalf of the oil, gas and coal industries and his butt buddy George Dim Bulb Bush, now he's getting on the Global Warming band wagon, he must smell money in it, otherwise he would not go near the subject, Right Wing Freaking Religious Fanatic Nutjob !

This guy need to be throw into a padded room and locked up for the common good !

[socrates]

Yeah, Pat Robertson, a great American hypocrite to go with Arianna Huffington, Christopher Hitchens, Scarborough, Novakula, argh

Early Last Night: I was close to huge lightning strikes. Many trees went down. One was blocking a whole street. It was damn hot. There was no rain. It was dry lightning. Then the rain and lightning both came down fierce. People thought they saw tornados but they were some type of perfect storm type wind bursts. Now somehow it is perfect. Who killed the electric car?

[altitudelou]

Ha !

The list of hypocrites would be long indeed, no doubt about it, I love it when their own greed and lust for power ends up eating them, poetic justice for the people they have screwed, it's just to bad they seem to get away with their crap for so long before they get caught and exposed for what they really are,_Con Artist.

Re: The weather.

Yeah, it's a rush for sure to be close to a big lightening strike, I've been real close myself a few times, I was up on a mountain ridge once, caught above tree line and a fast moving thunder storm came in, man, strikes everywhere along the ridge because of the iron and mineral deposits, I thought I was going to become a used charcoal briquette before I made it back down below the tree line.

Another time I was standing on a porch watching a thunder storm pass over and a big white pine tree about forty feet away got hit by this tremendous bolt of lightening, the force of it nearly knocked me off my feet, the tree literally blew up from the steam build up inside of it, limbs and pieces of the tree blew out all over the place, after the storm I looked at the tree and from the top to the bottom it had a huge split in it, that was to close, I don't ever want to be close to a strike like that again.

Re: Who killed the electric car.

Have you seen the movie?

The feeling I got from watching it was, "What the hell is wrong with this society anyway?"

[socrates]

The dude behind Who Killed the Electric Car was on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. He seemed completely sincere. Things like this are a big reason why I think there is an aerosol operation going on trying to mask the problems that arrived with the Industrial Revolution and modernity.

[altitudelou]

Yeah, Chris Paine seems genuinely motivated in educating people on why all of the great zero emissions vehicles like the electric car manufactured in this country have been destroyed for the most part by all the major auto manufacturers that built them to begin with.

You really start to understand the greed and want of control behind the reasoning when you see this documentary and how big business and government just do not want the public to have fuel efficient and environmentally friendly vehicles, the reality is that they don't really want new energy coming forward, instead they want to continue to feed from the oil based, oil driven auto industry and squeeze every last dollar they can out of the public as they figure out the best way to control the coming change over to energy efficient, green auto technology.

The Bastards want to control what goes into our fuel tanks or force us to buy power from the grid to run our vehicles so they can continue to rake in huge profits from the public when the oil peters out, these F---ing pricks are greed driven and they do not want to give up what has been and endless cash flow from Joe Six Pack / consumer.

Everyone should see this documentary "Who Killed The Electric Car" if only to see how corrupt and greed driven our elected officials are and the industries that they serve.

I don't know how anyone who has seen it could even think of voting for a stinking, crooked, lousy, scum sucking Republican, they are the worst of the worst in selling out every American in favor of their buddies in industry, they think we are only here to be the severing class to their high station in life, a mer means to and end in serving their agendas_ at what cost to us, Oh, that's right, they don't care_ Screw Us !