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Post by Mech on Jan 1, 2008 0:33:23 GMT -5
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Post by Mech on Jan 1, 2008 23:24:40 GMT -5
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Post by Mech on Jan 2, 2008 20:52:39 GMT -5
Someone comment on this please.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jan 2, 2008 21:22:41 GMT -5
That's a new twist, Chinese gangs and military ops fighting the Illuminati. Since China and Japan are the biggest threats to the USA hegemony, one can see the rivalry. Many years ago I had stated that the battle for the planet is a bunch of different organizations ....Military-Industrial Complex, NWO, Illuminati, Bilderbergs, Fundamentalists, Zionists, Neo-Cons, China, European Union, etc. We are fortunate that they can't seem to work together.
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Post by Mech on Jan 2, 2008 22:31:08 GMT -5
Did you see Rockefellers face when Fulford mentioned Ron Paul getting rid of the Federal reserve.
It looked like he was about to have a cardiac arrest.
Old bastard.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jan 3, 2008 11:29:28 GMT -5
I saw that! Amazing that Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are the only two mentioning getting rid of the Federal Reserve, and are passed off as two "kooks".
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Post by Mech on Jan 3, 2008 17:19:57 GMT -5
Id vote on a Paul/Kucinich Ticket.
My only beef with Kucinich is his stance on gun control...other than that...from what ive read...hes ok in my book.
Actually...that overfed goofball from NBC..... Tim Russert thinks Ron Paul will beat Guiliani.
He still has a chance.
I guess Ralph Nader is endorsing John Edwards.
Ive lost respect for Ralph now.....no matter how much I love what him and the "naders raiders" did for the health and saftey of all Americans in the 60's and 70's.
Ill have to hear his reasons why...i voted for him back in the 96 election cycle.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jan 3, 2008 18:30:29 GMT -5
Id vote on a Paul/Kucinich Ticket. My only beef with Kucinich is his stance on gun control...other than that...from what ive read...hes ok in my book. Actually...that overfed goofball from NBC..... Tim Russert thinks Ron Paul will beat Guiliani. He still has a chance. I guess Ralph Nader is endorsing John Edwards. Ive lost respect for Ralph now.....no matter how much I love what him and the "naders raiders" did for the health and saftey of all Americans in the 60's and 70's. Ill have to hear his reasons why...i voted for him back in the 96 election cycle. Yeah, that would be a good ticket. Being a Constitutionalist, I don't think Kucinich would ban guns. Conversely, my one gripe with Ron Paul is privatization of the government. The best would be a government that plays by the rules, helps the people, and adheres to the Constitution.Paul and Kucinich both speak truth to power though, and that is what puts them at odds with the War Machine. Anyway you look at it, ANYBODY would be better than Huckabee, Ghouliani, or Romney. Well......I'm not sure of Hillary. She is too AIPAC, and I upset some people last week at a party saying I might vote for Ron Paul if he ran against her. I think Nader could be going with the "Southern Strategy". All presidents since Johnson have been either from Texas or the South.
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Post by Mech on Jan 3, 2008 21:06:38 GMT -5
GAWD...if those people only knew what a sadistic WITCH Hillary...and i mean (REAL) witch that woman is.
Seriously...she is NOT what she appears to be. She is fucking satanic/reptilian.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jan 3, 2008 21:24:26 GMT -5
GAWD...if those people only knew what a sadistic WITCH Hillary...and i mean (REAL) witch that woman is. Seriously...she is NOT what she appears to be. She is fucking satanic/reptilian. The worst is when a female says, "I will vote for her because she's a woman"
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Post by Mech on Jan 3, 2008 21:36:51 GMT -5
I try not to even look at her gender..i look at the track record and what a globalist asshole her husband is...chumming around with the former king of the CIA...HW Bush. Recently...she stated they will be "Ambassadors to the world" to fix the "problems" that JUNIOR created. Thats like asking Hermann Goering to FIX nazi propaganda movies. THAT should tell you right there. She is a warmongering globalist corporate shill just like Billy boy. makes me want to puke.
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Post by Mech on Jan 3, 2008 21:48:50 GMT -5
January 02, 2008 www.democracynow.org/2008/1/2/robert_parry_hillary_clinton_signals_freeRobert Parry: Hillary Clinton Signals Free Pass for Bush “Former President Bill Clinton’s comment that his wife’s ‘first thing’ as President would be to send him and former President George H.W. Bush on a worldwide fence-mending tour has a political subtext,” reports investigative journalist Robert Parry. “It signals that a second Clinton administration would give a free pass to the second Bush administration on its abuses.”
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jan 3, 2008 22:20:51 GMT -5
Bush Sr is THE Central Scrutinizer of the NWO/Globalists/Neo-Nazis/Zionists. Period. Hillary is being pushed on us because she is AIPAC no matter how she shape shifts. I think Edwards would be a better choice, even though he is not perfect. Imagine this..........Ghouliani vs Hillary An out and out Zionist Fascist vs a Zionist Globalist. Freaking Huckabee wining in Iowa tonight!!!!! Just when we thought the Fundies were through. This is truly Bizarro World!
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Post by Mech on Jan 3, 2008 23:05:17 GMT -5
I quote Frank Zappa.
Sell us a president, agency man Smiling Big Brother stern father perhaps Sell us a president, agency man (A gay?) smiling up we know never craps Let's try California, Pay us first before we do it We get a smilin nazi March him right on through Wham a baby Kiss a baby Ladies in for tea
And here's a bunch of speeches Well toss 'em in for free
Sell us a president, agency man Smiling Big Brother stern father perhaps Sell us a president, agency man (A gay?) smiling up we know never craps
We'll sell him in the movies On the tube throughout the year We'll sell him by the bucket To the Okies drinking beer We'll teach him how to walk and talk We'll putty up his chin We'll print his picture everywhere Of course the shmuck will win
From the heart of Death Valley To the ruling of our land A simple trick you simple pig It's just the way we planned
From "Agency Man" Frank Zappa
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jan 3, 2008 23:37:31 GMT -5
Zappa couldn't believe the USA elected Reagen, and then followed by Mr Nazi Bush Sr. He died right at the end of Bush's regime. Everything he said about this country has come true, right back to "Help I'm a Rock".
I think though we must remain as positive as possible, because the Iowa caucus was an upset, and perhaps there is still some independence left in people, as we all mistrust the corporate powers so much. The NWO/Globalists cannot predict every event they plan on happening. There is always the X-Factor, and that is something that even Zappa missed. Could be he was too cynical, though correct about our society.
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Post by Mech on Jan 4, 2008 0:04:28 GMT -5
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jan 4, 2008 19:21:51 GMT -5
The only candidates that I'd even begin to consider are Kucinich, Paul and Gravel (none of which I agree with 100%). All of which have been blacklisted by the media. That should be the greatest indicator of who's the best for us right now. The harder the MSM pushes a candidate, the bigger the globalist they are. I'm impressed with Paul's earned title of "Dr. no" as described by the lobbyists in Washington. I can respect a politician that at least sticks to his/her true principles (even if I disagree). At least show me your true face. The Bush/Clinton types say one thing and do another. Professional liars. Other times they try to have it both ways by being for and against something at the same time.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jan 4, 2008 19:39:55 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jan 4, 2008 21:17:31 GMT -5
Kucinich, Paul, and Gravel all take on the Machine. Paul beat Ghouliani in Iowa, yet Paul is being left out of debates, and the Ghoul is still in. Kucinich has the record along with Paul as being against the War Machine from the start. AIPAC, Oil, and War runs the election and these three are calling them who they are. Check this out: thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/fox-news-populisms-win-is-americas-loss/
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Post by Mech on Jan 4, 2008 22:12:47 GMT -5
I don't exactly get fanatical about Ron Paul like many of his supporters...but he SEEMS trustworthy...and anyone who wants to get us out of the expensive and horrible MESS we have over in Iraq is worth voting for.
I also ...absolute agree with abolishing the FED and the IRS.
Downsizing government and the CIA especially.
For some reason....I feel he would be assasinated if he gets in by some military industrial mercenaries....because their power base would be so diminished.
Unfortunately..i don't see Gravel or kucinich having much of a chance.
There is a HUGE Ron Paul contingent in New Hampshire....I was up there 2 months ago and i saw Ron Paul lawn signs everywhere.
I would say Huckabee, Romney or Hillary is the WORST case scenario...especially Huckabee.....
I'm sure that fruitcake believes in the "last days" in the Bible and the apocalypse like all those other fruity born-agains do.
He'll probably do something stupid and start world war 3....just to fulfil that belief.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jan 4, 2008 22:49:30 GMT -5
I also ...absolute agree with abolishing the FED and the IRS. Downsizing government and the CIA especially. Absolutely!! If the government was strictly defense, and took care of the people, it would be great. Corporations run the government and they have one purpose only...To make a profit. We could have state taxes only. Eliminate health insurance companies. I would gladly pay one half of what we pay for health insurance and have the choice of a doctor. The CIA has from the very beginning a hit squad/SWAT Team for corporate fascism. In fact, I would even say it "bought out" the Mafia.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jan 6, 2008 21:37:55 GMT -5
www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/119606963456620.xml&coll=2Kucinich suggests a Republican running mateMonday, November 26, 2007 Sabrina Eaton and Stephen Koff Plain Dealer Washington Bureau Acworth, N.H. -- Call it the liberal-libertarian ticket, where left meets right and Democrat Dennis Kucinich picks Republican Ron Paul to be his vice president. Kucinich, the Cleveland congressman running in a longshot bid to become president, suggested it himself Sunday. "I'm thinking about Ron Paul" as a running mate, Kucinich told a crowd of about 70 supporters at a house party here, one of numerous stops throughout New Hampshire over the Thanksgiving weekend. A Kucinich-Paul administration could bring people together "to balance the energies in this country," Kucinich said. It would create a stunning, if dizzying, blend of beliefs, wedding two politicians who hold different views on abortion rights, the role of government in providing health care, and the use of government in fostering -- or hampering -- the public's greater good. Those are among the reasons it would never work, said a spokesman for Paul, a Texas congressman and doctor. "Dr. Paul and Rep. Kucinich are friends and there is a lot of mutual respect," Paul communications director Jesse Benton said in an e-mail when asked whether a running-mate spot on the Kucinich ticket would be attractive to Paul. "They have worked, and will continue to work, together on ending the war and protecting civil liberties. "However, Ron wants to substantially cut the size and scope of the federal government. There are too many differences on issues such as taxes and spending to think a joint ticket would be possible." Kucinich and Paul are gadflies to their parties' establishments. Kucinich challenges Democrats to stop cozying up to corporate interests, while Paul challenges Republicans to shed the trappings of big government. Both frequently cite the Constitution as providing the authority for their agendas. Paul never votes for legislation unless the measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution, his campaign says. Kucinich keeps a pocket-size copy of the Constitution handy, taking it out to invoke its authority over such proposals as the impeachment of Vice President Cheney, one of Kucinich's signature issues. Speculation of a Kucinich-Paul ticket has surfaced on the Internet, where it also has been shot down. But Kucinich's wife, Elizabeth, did not dismiss it when asked about it after a recent Democratic candidates' debate in Las Vegas. Speaking to the Web site RawVegasTV, she called Paul "a great truth-teller," adding that Paul has "voted 100 percent right on the war." On Sunday, her husband said, "Think of how you could unite the country, having a Democrat and a Republican on the ticket."
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Post by Mech on Jan 6, 2008 21:41:38 GMT -5
Wow...that would be a "uniter" ticket!!!
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jan 6, 2008 22:15:45 GMT -5
Just call it the Constitutional Party. Differences in people usually find a happy median if the people are decent folks, which Paul and Kucinich are, and perhaps we could have a government that cares for the people, with states having more sovereign rights. They upset the living crap out of the AIPAC-funded Demo and Repubs. Oh well, we can dream....
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Post by increase 1776 on Jan 7, 2008 3:51:17 GMT -5
Watched the interview.Rockafella,TheQueen,and many others will out live all of us.They may have found the fountain of youth,so to speak.This will be the last election I'll give a rat's ass about.Ron Paul wins or we will be spilling the blood of patriots and nwo types.,so be it.This is our last chance. Anyone that wants to vote for Hillary should have to read this before they vote. www.therant.us/staff/swirsky/2006/03132006.htm There are seven parts to this. One of my favorites. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356 This does not imply that I like violence and bloodshed.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jan 7, 2008 17:37:07 GMT -5
Hillary is a war monger and takes her orders from the Zionists and Globalists. Then again, so does everyone except Kucinich and Paul. On top on that, she is always referred to as a "liberal". Real liberals were Constitutionalists like Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, et al. This is the same as calling the New York Times "liberal". What has happened on the flip side is Libertarians are despised by many liberals becasue they are associated with Right Wing politics, in other words, George W Bush. The uninitiated do not know enough to take people as individuals. Like I said, I would vote for Paul if he ran against Hillary. It's beginning to look like Romney vs Obama this year. AIPAC ahoy!!!
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Post by Mech on Jan 12, 2008 15:54:06 GMT -5
I still think its going to be Hillary.
the rumor going around the White House allegedly is Hillary will be the next P-resident SE-lect
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