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Post by kola on Feb 12, 2007 15:21:18 GMT -5
David, My posting was in no way intended to offend Theta or SwampGas. What ever differences that they have towards Chem11 or Socrates is between them. I tend to respect just about everyone who acknowledges chemtrails. Because there are so many things we can't nail down, we can only speculate what is really going on and who is really behind it. It creates controversy but IMO we all need to stay together. It is similar to my relationship with my brother. In my younger years we would argue, fight and bloody each other but when the dust settled and/or the going got tough we still loved each other.
Sometimes time is a healer.
Peace and Courage, Kola
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Post by BigJoe on Feb 12, 2007 18:04:29 GMT -5
BigJoe... It is sad to see what is becoming of our lives, both personally and in humanity as a whole. Agreed, David... it is very sad indeed. We've really made a mess of things, haven't we?
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Post by BigJoe on Feb 12, 2007 18:41:09 GMT -5
BTW, do you all want this site back open again? Swamp, we've lost a LOT of good people from this website... and for very good and obvious reasons. Unless the faith and trust that we had here can be restored, and the bridges that were burned; repaired, and all of the longtime friendships healed and mended... unless this happens, I don't feel comfortable posting here. Like I said to you in my email, it's going to take a lot of work and effort to repair all of the damage that certain individuals recently caused here. They really did a super job of making a mess! But I do believe, if the intent is there... all of this damage CAN be very gradually fixed. You and Theta, and many other people, put a LOT of love and hard work into this website. I sincerely would hate to see it die.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Feb 12, 2007 20:54:19 GMT -5
Bigjoe, it is not dying, but sort of Cryogenic Suspension. We put a lot of effort and love into Gastronamus, and some people didn't give two shits. I won't name names, but think about it......Flat-Earthers, Hackers, Arguers, Nasty people, and quitters. Then when Chem11 went insane, that was the last straw. You are welcome to the other unnamed site, which is really more fun.
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Post by kola on Feb 12, 2007 21:08:54 GMT -5
Swampgas, My apologies if you did not appreciate my flat-earth thinking. Would you settle for square?
A perfect example of the problems here. You seem to take one post (from the hundreds) and because it doesn't jive with you, you condemn that person to hell. Like a nagging wife who keeps bringing up an episode from years past, you can't let it go. People have different ideas, present different questions and express their opinions that don't agree with yours. That is human nature.
You can either choose to grow and adapt or decide to hate everyone who thinks different than you.
Thanks for helping me decide whether or not to post here.
Kola
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Post by chickenlittle on Feb 12, 2007 22:21:44 GMT -5
Cool mark if this is up when I check in again I will post what is going on around here. I have not noticed the jets being much quieter. But thick clouds the last couple of days and as soon as we got a sun break today there they were,up there making sure they covered it. Nasty take care and have you watched "who killed the electric car" yet if not you should rent it whomever is still reading,it is pretty interesting. chicky
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Post by Swamp Gas on Feb 12, 2007 22:58:16 GMT -5
Swampgas, My apologies if you did not appreciate my flat-earth thinking. Would you settle for square? A perfect example of the problems here. You seem to take one post (from the hundreds) and because it doesn't jive with you, you condemn that person to hell. Like a nagging wife who keeps bringing up an episode from years past, you can't let it go. People have different ideas, present different questions and express their opinions that don't agree with yours. That is human nature. You can either choose to grow and adapt or decide to hate everyone who thinks different than you. Thanks for helping me decide whether or not to post here. Kola You actually have no idea what you are talking about. Who said I directed that at you? Guilty conscience? Whatever......Leave, then. Go back to Carnicom's...Oh, wait.....He canned you, and I at least let you have your opinion. Perhaps you should practice what you preach instead of being the "Holy Man". reminds me of the infamous Koot Hoomi. Cigar smoking, and Drinking "telepathic" that "transmitted" all of the "Spiritual" teachings to Alice Bailey. This is why we have had it with such forums. We set up the site, allow people to come in and actually voice their opinions, and then some of you piss on it. And you know who have earned our respect, and which one of you can go fly a kite.
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Post by kola on Feb 13, 2007 1:11:12 GMT -5
Swamp quoted:"Who said I directed that at you? Guilty conscience? Whatever......Leave, then. Go back to Carnicom's...Oh, wait.....He canned you, and I at least let you have your opinion. Perhaps you should practice what you preach instead of being the "Holy Man". reminds me of the infamous Koot Hoomi. Cigar smoking, and Drinking "telepathic" that "transmitted" all of the "Spiritual" teachings to Alice Bailey.
This is EXACTLY what I am talking about. Thanks for proving my point.
Swamp quote: "This is why we have had it with such forums. We set up the site, allow people to come in and actually voice their opinions, and then some of you piss on it."
Swamp, show me where I pissed on your forum.
Kola
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Post by halva on Feb 13, 2007 1:35:27 GMT -5
One of the Reasons we chose to shut down most of this site was because of that psychopathic egotist Chem11. This is someone who I helped, sent people to, and he turned on me like a rabid dog. If you all want this site open to continue posting on all threads, all you have to do is ask. OK. I'm asking. Would you like to ask anything of me, Swamp?
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Post by Swamp Gas on Feb 13, 2007 7:21:59 GMT -5
OK. I'm asking. Would you like to ask anything of me, Swamp? halva, you are the prefect example of someone who's opinions upsets people (not me...I've always respected your intelligence), and all of the "holy men", and "the one who have the answers" want me to ban you. As long as they can state their "opinions", everything is OK. As soon as you or I state our opinions, we "have to grow up". The absurdity of this is beyond comprehension, except as Thetaloops said last night, "Pretentious". Let me ask you this (you can answer publicly or in a PM)...What would want to do with this site, at least in the Geo-Engineering and Aerosols matter?
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Post by halva on Feb 13, 2007 7:40:45 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Gas on Feb 13, 2007 7:42:28 GMT -5
Mainly just keep you up to date with what we are doing in Greece, and what I am doing on-line, for example my recent exchange with the climate change debunker Dr. Tim Ball. Fine, I will leave that in your capable hands halva. Post away.
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Post by kola on Feb 13, 2007 12:31:08 GMT -5
Swamp,
again, show me where I pissed on this forum. you ignore my first request.
swamp quote: halva, you are the prefect example of someone who's opinions upsets people (not me...I've always respected your intelligence), and all of the "holy men", and "the one who have the answers" want me to ban you.
Did I ever say I wanted Halva banned?
Swamp quote: As long as they can state their "opinions", everything is OK.
No Swamp, this is where you are wrong. Everying is NOT OK when someone states their opinion. ( according to your reasoning).
Swamp quote: As soon as you or I state our opinions, we "have to grow up". Show me where I attacked any of your opinions. The part about "growing up" was in direct answer to your ad homs towards me which obviously looks as though you had some pent-up hatred towards me the "holy man". If more than one poster has been telling you to grow up maybe there is truth to it.
swamp quote: The absurdity of this is beyond comprehension, except as Thetaloops said last night, "Pretentious".
Yes swamp, quite odd indeed and you do a great job of sticking knives in other comrades.
enuf sed, Kola
on another note it looks as though me being a sacrifical lamb at Clownacom's site paid off. Cliffy deleted Yaaks postings and banned him...tsk tsk.
so ban me here too. sniffle sniffle :0
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Post by Swamp Gas on Feb 13, 2007 13:16:57 GMT -5
kola, I am not wasting any more time with you. I should by all rights ban you, but you see, I won't do that, because everyone who knows me knows that I am extremely tolerant...To a Point.
You are coming close to that point, and I would suggest you cease and desist.
One more post attacking my integrity or motivation, and you will be banned.
¿Comprende?
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Post by halva on Feb 13, 2007 15:58:46 GMT -5
I'm sorry that I can't say anything here that will help to identify either the cause of the disagreement or what might be done about it.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Feb 13, 2007 16:20:37 GMT -5
That's OK, halva. Here is the problem with some posters.......
They scream "freedom of speech, freedom of speech". There is another unwritten rule about coming into somebody's house, eating their food, putting their feet up on the couch, and then making fun of the cooking and the furniture. The people who come in here seem to be talking about their Flat-Earth Theory of either there is no Global Warming, or Cosmic Rays/Sunshine is causing it. Now fine, we know this is veiled Right-Wing Conservative/Biblical/Exxon Concept (at least it was Exxon until they now admit it is humans causing most of it). Conservatives and Libertarians really do believe they have the answers. But, I can entertain these theories as much as I can entertain Orbs and Aliens in relation to Aerosol Mitigation.
Some people came in here, kicked down the doors, and blah-blah-blahed about Al Gore being an Illuminati Stooge, Liberals are out to steal our land, etc, etc, etc. Again, I can understand the Meta-Programming as John Lilly used to say, or actually more precisely...BRAINWASHING.
When posters start harassing, ridiculing, cursing at, accusing, and flaming other posters, that is when I draw the line. This especially includes myself and Thetaloops.
Who are these people that simply do not appreciate that we opened opened doors and allow a peaceful place to discuss things?
If someone came in here and said George Bush is an incredible president, he would be laughed off the site. Why is it any different when biblical theories disguised as pseudo-science are pushed on us.
This is why Theta and I are about done. It is not we who have to grow up, but it is these poopy drawed, wet behind the ears punks that do not appreciate the effort we put into this.
My thought is this....Friends and marriages last not because of fighting and disagreeing, but because of common likes and dislikes.
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Post by halva on Feb 14, 2007 2:40:01 GMT -5
It is a basic rule of warfare that when you have two enemies you go with the weaker one against the stronger, not the stronger against the weaker. That in itself is enough to dictate that we go with the climate change activists, not the climate change deniers.
In Europe the situation is clear. The European Commission is divided between Verheugen and Dimas, Dimas being the weaker. You go with Dimas, not with Verheugen. There can be no argument about this. It is obvious.
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Post by David on Feb 14, 2007 12:19:45 GMT -5
Kola: "David, My posting was in no way intended to offend Theta or SwampGas." I never thought you had, I stated that chem 11's was a good choice because swamp had stated he was closing posting on gastro. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Swamp: "poopy drawed, wet behind the ears punks that do not appreciate the effort we put into this. I won't name names, but think about it......Flat-Earthers, Hackers, Arguers, Nasty people, and quitters. Cripes Swamp this is getting out of hand. You do have friends and allies, don't toss us into the trash True I stated I was going to quit the site, I said that because you stated you were closing posting. If one can't post why stay?
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Post by Swamp Gas on Feb 14, 2007 14:28:57 GMT -5
we're open for business David, but we just can't spend as much time here.
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Post by chickenlittle on Feb 16, 2007 7:52:54 GMT -5
Hi we had rain upom rain yesterday and temps have been in the 50's dung the day,yesterday I noticed still trails being laid and still business as usual for them. It said today for a forcast comming up today more clouds than sun forcasted I know what that means. Then for the next week upcoming forcast says we may again get snow???I really am hoping not any more snow,but...... has anyone heard a song by a girl named JEM,called "They" it is a really good song and you all should take a listen when you have a chance: "Who are these people, who?they make up all the rules?" "Do you see what I see?why do we live like this?" who are they?where are they? why do we live like this? I'm sorry ,so sorry,I'm sorry it's like this? these are a few of the lyrics and it has these little childrens voices in the background singing along ,eerie,pretty good tune,for a new and upcoming artist,at least there are still musicians out there bitching too.
also sometimes "time wounds all heels" uhhhh who was that Nick Lowe??? take care, chicky
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Post by marklookingup on Feb 18, 2007 15:10:26 GMT -5
Today in Kitsap County brings in another day of spraying and heavy chem-clouds. Now it's the norm around here.
Ellyn, at CTC, made a recent post about the sequence of spraying in Calif. that seems to jive with what I see around here.
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Post by madcitizen on Feb 18, 2007 21:55:44 GMT -5
Denver, Colorado Sunday, Feb. 18 the spraying continues...
Today was another full launch day. It featured various types, with a very obvious sun-block/filter/screen/. It's so obvious, if it weren't happening for real, it would be comical. How the spray jets fly towards the sunscreening area leaving no contrail at all & just as they are about to enter the area, they flip on the spray switch & boom, out ejects the chemicals behind them. Like a freaking on/off switch! Then, if one keeps watching, the plane will emerge on the other side of the sunscreen area, & voila! suddenly they're leaving no "contrail" at all behind them once again. Huh.......isn't that strange.
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Post by chickenlittle on Feb 21, 2007 20:56:41 GMT -5
We have had a ton of jets overhead today,seems like every few minutes the rumbling was above.and laying out dark trails. I am very excited about THE program tomorrow night on Discovery,I am excited to see what will be said. take care everyone, chicky
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Post by lophofo on Feb 21, 2007 21:12:58 GMT -5
We have had a ton of jets overhead today,seems like every few minutes the rumbling was above.and laying out dark trails. I am very excited about THE program tomorrow night on Discovery,I am excited to see what will be said. take care everyone, chicky Today has been the craziest spraying I've seen in a long time. Ovals, with lines through them, two or three jets going at a time. One going from one mountain to another. Then, half an hour later, another jet going the opposite direction, but in the same path at the previous one. We've had them all over the valley. It's like this huge moving haze. And then you see all the jets making etch-a-sketch lines through it. I can't believe how oblivious people are to this. It makes me wanna scream, "Look Up! How can you not even care? THAT (pointing at hazy clouds that were formed when trails expanded and dropped) is not normal!!" I'm so excited about the program tomorrow. I amm going to record it. And, I posted a MySpace bulletin about it. I hope people watch it, and that it gets more of us to wake up and speak out.
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Post by marklookingup on Mar 2, 2007 11:19:20 GMT -5
Out here in the PNW, we were inundated with cts Thurs. am. until about 2:00 pm., and then it was too overcast to see what was happening.
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Post by marklookingup on Mar 5, 2007 1:26:30 GMT -5
Today, Sunday, we had a white-out in the PNW. Every time a small patch of blue would start to appear, the spray planes would immediately cover it up.
This happened ALL day. WHAT in God's name are they trying to hide?
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Post by madcitizen on Mar 6, 2007 3:04:39 GMT -5
posted by marklookingup
Hey Marklookingup, Wow. What I witnessed today in the Denver area sounds exactly like your situation out there yesterday. I couldn't have put today's absurdity into better and more accurate words myself.
Hey marklookingup/Chickenlittle, Do you notice the illuminating of these chemtrails by the sun (what sun does shine through the haze, that is) at certain, brief spans of time that creates odd colors, many times a pale pinkish color? Usually around sunrise & sunset.?.
Monday, March 5 Denver, Colorado Here in the Denver Metro today, it was another grey/off-white dome of cloud-smear. It looked to cover horizon to horizon & well beyond that in the direction of North & East. Every break (small patch of blue sky) in this blanket of "clouds" was immediately re-sprayed & morphed into the rest of the haze. This madness went on from dawn to dusk.
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Post by marklookingup on Mar 6, 2007 12:53:40 GMT -5
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Post by marklookingup on Mar 7, 2007 19:43:40 GMT -5
Chicky,
Are you still out there?
We are getting pasted EVERY day lately. It's insane.
I did a repair on a house in Port Orchard yesterday and the lady of the house was complaining about having vertigo. She said the doctors have run multitudes of tests and are unable to find a cause.
I invited her outside to witness a sky full of persisting trails, and it caught her completely off-guard. I suggested the cause of her ailment could be coming from above. She told me that her husband should be able to shed some light on the subject.
It turns out that he is an air traffic control supervisor. I almost fell down! I'll be going back out to finish in a few days; making sure he is home.
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Post by chickenlittle on Mar 8, 2007 7:37:18 GMT -5
Mark are you kidding,yep still here,so far: on the 5th we were totally saturated from early 6am on. After my daughter crashed her car I have been driving her some 15 miles to work every day until she gets a car,and as I head out early I see from the very start what these ass holes are doing. I had mentioned that as of late the amount of young people dying from heart and cancer diseases has been emense and very disturbing. I swear it is messing with health in a huge way. Now yesterday, the wonderful wind was blowing and they had to give it up/thank God. Another thing,last Sunday there was another one of those sonic booms,shook the hell out of everything and people complained so the paper actually wrote something that was actually nothing but I had to laugh that they said they asked the Air Force and they of course said that they DID NOT HAVE ANY aircraft that can cause a sonic boom and the FAA also DIDN'T know anything about it, of course. Here is a copy of the article and how bold face lies seem acceptable or is it that if it is the military in any way people just accept what they are told,I thought that the Air Force would be one of the only ones that COULD cause a sonic boom with their jets??? www.peninsuladailynews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070307/NEWS/703070305also Mark,I cant wait to hear what the air traffic controller has to say and hey if you can (if you would) try to remember to mention when you talk to him especially if he seems to be (one of them) hehe Why dont these air craft show up on flight aware,one thing that should have been brought up on that Discovery program when they tried to put the whole problem on more air traffic(Bull) Anyways yes ,definately still here ,take care friend,and I will be waiting to read your next log in after being able to talk to this guy. chicky
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