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Post by marklookingup on Oct 22, 2006 1:45:23 GMT -5
portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/10/347341.shtmlfeature article announcements oregon & cascadia 09.Oct.2006 22:13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- environment | health "Chemtrail" Educational Forum Coming to Portland Nov. 4 Educational Forum Nov. 4th at the Main Public Library in Downtown Portland. 801 SW 10th Ave. "Chemtrail" (slang term for chemical aerosol experimentation in our skies) Seminar is coming to Portland Nov. 4th at the Downtown Main Library in POrtland. 2 experts on this much speculated and little known phenomenon are visiting Portland to host a seminar with speakers, films, slides. call or email for further information. Topics include: U.S. Senate Bill 517 & U.S. House Bill 2005 (experimental weather modification bills). Gives Bush use of the skies with no agricultural, government or citizen oversight Experimental weather modification programs (80+ in 2005 listed by NOAA in the Western States.) Adverse impacts of jet fuel emissions and their impact on crop production and human health. Persistent jet contrails producing man-made clouds (NASA October 2005 Newsletter), changing our climate, exacerbating global warming, and negatively impacting natural resources and crop production. Atmospheric heating and testing programs that are impacting our weather and may be polluting our water and air with toxic chemicals. Tree declines and lower crop production across the United States. Geoengineering plans that would add sulfur and other toxic chemicals to our atmosphere and oceans - impacts on public health, crop production, and trees. [ Read More ] [ www.californiaskywatch.com ]
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Post by Swamp Gas on Oct 22, 2006 10:18:45 GMT -5
Anybody here going to attend this?
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Post by increase 1776 on Oct 22, 2006 13:07:52 GMT -5
Let me see.I live an hour away,duh,sure,why not.I will contact mark sky also.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Oct 22, 2006 13:56:12 GMT -5
Let me see.I live an hour away,duh,sure,why not.I will contact mark sky also. Say Hi to Mark!! I'm sure all the CTC insanity is behind us all.
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Post by increase 1776 on Oct 22, 2006 14:24:57 GMT -5
Out here, on the "Left Coast", them steamship trails came back this past week,bringing with it,literally,tons of "SpiderWebs",it you get my drift.Aerosolized BZ nerve agents are being used on all of us, in this persons opinion.Along with your standard cocktail mix of death and mind control. Research it yourself.
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Post by marklookingup on Oct 23, 2006 0:44:26 GMT -5
Let me see.I live an hour away,duh,sure,why not.I will contact mark sky also. Increase, I live about 31/2-4 hrs. away from Portland, so I will try to get down there also. My son is an environmental engineer in Portland, dealing with surface water. He is trying to write a paper about chemtrails and there effects on the open reservoirs that supply Portland it's water. He is having trouble finding the right scientific data. I put him in contact with Brian Holmes (Holmestead), but they're not having a lot of luck. Maybe Rosalind Peterson will be able to help him out. Does anyone here know of any reliable documents on this subject?
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Post by altitudelou on Oct 23, 2006 21:27:53 GMT -5
Marklookingup wrote,
"My son is an environmental engineer in Portland, dealing with surface water. He is trying to write a paper about chemtrails and there effects on the open reservoirs that supply Portland it's water.
He is having trouble finding the right scientific data. I put him in contact with Brian Holmes (Holmestead), but they're not having a lot of luck. Maybe Rosalind Peterson will be able to help him out.
Does anyone here know of any reliable documents on this subject?" ______________________________________________________________
Probably not much help, I'm sure they have looked into various universities with regard to surface water data, most states keep data on their surface water quality through constant testing, other than these I can't think off hand of any reliable other sources, I would not touch any government source with a ten foot pole and I'd be leary of universities, most of the major universities are also major money grubbers that suck up to the government but if you did not tell them about the chemtrail research you stand a chance of getting good hydro data in my opinion, it's worth a shot.
Brian Holmes is a good man, lots of tech contacts, your son is working with someone who has uncommon, common sense, can't go wrong with that.
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Post by marklookingup on Oct 23, 2006 22:00:36 GMT -5
Lou wrote "Probably not much help, I'm sure they have looked into various universities with regard to surface water data, most states keep data on their surface water quality through constant testing, other than these I can't think off hand of any reliable other sources, I would not touch any government source with a ten foot pole and I'd be leary of universities, most of the major universities are also major money grubbers that suck up to the government but if you did not tell them about the chemtrail research you stand a chance of getting good hydro data in my opinion, it's worth a shot.
Brian Holmes is a good man, lots of tech contacts, your son is working with someone who has uncommon, common sense, can't go wrong with that."
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Thanks Lou,
I don't think they normally test municipal water for things like aluminum, barium, etc. I'm sure hoping Rosalind will have some answers.
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Post by chickenlittle on Oct 26, 2006 6:51:53 GMT -5
I wonder if I should send a copy of this info to our local newspaper to let others see that there are more people out there with helpful info and this pretty much shows people the dirty deeds of the gov. that I could not put into words. Is it o.k to use this list of topics that will be covered at this? I am also 3-4 hrs. away but I am homeschooling and have my hands too full right now (kittens etc.)to be able to attend. But maybe others from my area may want to,and it is not as though people will be informed of this unless someone like myself advertises it in letters to the editor portion of our local paper. chicky
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Post by marklookingup on Nov 10, 2006 0:33:33 GMT -5
I was not able to attend the forum, but I got an e-mail from Rosalind Peterson today. Here is an excerpt :
"Yes, it was a success. I managed two television interviews and spoke with reporters from Washington State. I would have liked 3X as many people but the age span there was great as well as the interest level. Some of the participants are forming a group to pressure their public officials. This is great."
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Post by halva on Nov 10, 2006 6:08:03 GMT -5
Here is another report from someone who was there:
The event was in all a great success. At the apex, there were about 50 people in attendance but as it was 5 hours long it dwindled to about half by the end of the meeting.
Rosalind and Bridgett are incredibly informed and powerful speakers and were able to answer all questions and inform with clear and concise material. They only use material that is available from the government or government agencies or from companies that are involved in weather modification production or practice. She is extremely adverse to using the term, "chemtrails" (snip).
Rosalind was interviewed by someone with a cable television show and had many inquiries from around the country as a result of the interview. After the event she was also interviewed by another cable television host and that will air sometime this month.
The email list from the meeting will be used to start a group ... that will continue to do events and presentations and information dissemination.
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Post by BigBunny on Nov 10, 2006 10:38:54 GMT -5
Out of curiosity how does Ms Peterson define "cirrus aviaticus" or is that a figment of our imagination?
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Post by socrates on Nov 10, 2006 13:37:28 GMT -5
Hey Big Bunny, it's always good to see you posting here. Have you any opinion on Peterson? Does she seem to be avoiding this topic? Does it seem she is attempting to steer chemtrail discussion a certain way, and if so, in which direction and why?
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Post by halva on Nov 10, 2006 18:04:07 GMT -5
You will have to find your own way of asking her these questions.
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