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Post by may41970 on Jul 3, 2006 9:47:26 GMT -5
Hi all.
This is my first post here at Gastro. I'm a renounced American citizen that lives in a Taiwanese township called Yuanlin. I was hoping to inform the world that chemtrails are now a common cccurance in Taiwan, but it's not as easy to get this news out as I thought. Some people in Yuanlin noticed the chemtrails in the beginning - mainly old folks. But they didn't really think anything or feel like talking to others about them.
But I see them. And my wife sees them. The other 99.9% of younger people in Taiwan never look at the sky. I mean NEVER.
If anyone here has any ideas how I can get Taiwan listed as a "Chemtrail Country," or at least get someone to know what's going on here, I'd be eager to hear what you have to say.
May41970
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Post by altitudelou on Jul 3, 2006 15:42:52 GMT -5
may41970, Hi all,
"This is my first post here at Gastro. I'm a renounced American citizen that lives in a Taiwanese township called Yuanlin. I was hoping to inform the world that chemtrails are now a common cccurance in Taiwan, but it's not as easy to get this news out as I thought. Some people in Yuanlin noticed the chemtrails in the beginning - mainly old folks. But they didn't really think anything or feel like talking to others about them.
But I see them. And my wife sees them. The other 99.9% of younger people in Taiwan never look at the sky. I mean NEVER.
If anyone here has any ideas how I can get Taiwan listed as a "Chemtrail Country," or at least get someone to know what's going on here, I'd be eager to hear what you have to say."
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may41970,
Welcome to Gastro, your report of chemtrail's / spraying in Yuanlin, Taiwan is most interesting as I have recently heard that the spraying over Japan was extremely heavy at times, your post seems to verify that.
You have the very best tool at your disposal to report the chemtrail / spraying activity in your area of the world, your computer, your observations are reaching millions in a very short time as you make post such as this and the best thing that you can do is keep on making your post as you observe the spraying, there are countless numbers of people around the planet that want to know what this spraying is and just who is doing it and why, the more people that report it, the better.
Keep up the post and thank you.
Louis Aubuchont
Parsonsfield, Maine - U.S.A.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jul 3, 2006 23:45:41 GMT -5
Hi may41970, Welcome to Gastronamus,  Curious, where did you find the link at CTC? It was pretty much a word of mouth that got the entire old mod team, plus newbies were turned on by the vets. |
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Post by may41970 on Jul 4, 2006 19:12:36 GMT -5
Swampgas,
A CTC poster named "FUIwon'tdowhatyoutellme," mentioned Gastronamus twice - once on the "Netvocates" thread, and again on the "I Will no longer be posting at CTC thread." My guess is he found out about Gastro somewhere in "CTC Changes" thread, but I could be wrong.
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"Good luck to all. I hope Thermit can do right and fix this. If people want silly debate on whether chemtrails are real, they should go to debate both sides. If the site can clean itself up, then perhaps I will return to posting. The violent remarks need to be deleted. I will not be affiliated with a website where such comments are allowed to remain. Those who troll shouldn't be allowed to post here either. There are too many rabbit holes as it is. It is a shame. This place really is a lot different for the worse since all the moderators took off. Peace. "
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jul 6, 2006 14:54:38 GMT -5
Yes, after reading that thread I see. We had a massive thread here, and recently closed it down, regarding what happened at CTC (it is still archived, but invisible except to me and Thetaloops).
Any one of the mods can tell you what happened:
sickle (Et in Arcadia Ego)
Increase1776
Mech
Jeanie
CDsNutz
BigJoe
Mark Sky (What happened to him?)
Did I forget anyone? Sorry if I did.
There were and still are posters who would come and post the "blast the planes out of the sky threads", and then Jay Reynolds would call the FBI. We literally had to be covered 24/7, and needed a big team to do it. We would delete these threads very rapidly, and I would back up the entire site once a week ( I still have CTC archived in the pre-Katrina/mop/starman1 onslaught).
Then Thermit complains that Ellyn could not get in becasue we had banned an IP that was an AOL proxy. This was one poster, that's all. I said let's lift her IP ban, but keep all the rest. Thermit then cans all of the IPs, and literally it becomes a free for all. Reynolds, Smell (in his many disguises), Mach10, Spikey, ad nauseum are back, and there is a debunker now moderating the site. This was the same back in 2001 with an admin, who was forwarding IP addresses to Maverick's, along with email addresses. Thermit is a dope when it comes to security.
Right now, there are some suspicious people joining here, and I guarantee........
One out of bounds debunker sets foot, I will ban them quicker than a New York minute.
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Post by may41970 on Jul 8, 2006 6:53:45 GMT -5
Hey Swampgas,
To be candid, I suppose the real reason I posted here at Gastro was that I was hoping someone here would check out my previous posts at CTC and get an idea of where I'm coming from. Maybe I was kinda hoping it would gain me a few points of credibility here at Gastro. But in truth, you're probably suspicious of me and I'm definitely suspicious of you, and that's JUST FINE with the people who are laying down the chemtrails. That's what they want. Total confusion and mistrust.
I'm very new to posting about Chemtrails. If I hadn't seen them make their appearance in my corner of the world, I probably would have never started posting about them at all. (the only chemtrail boards I've ever posted on are at CTC and Gastro...and regarding trails here in Yuanlin, our skies have been normal for over a week)
Although FUI happily returned to CTC, I still have no intention too. Maybe I sound extreme here, but I think the entire site is bogus. I've got several reasons for this:
1) A search on the net turned up posts by an ex-moderator by the name of "Lulu." Need I say more? (If so, let me know)
2) My recent discovery of "Netvocates" is proof of something that I've long suspected. Paid shills are a reality. As Thermit runs the site, he can access the IP addresses of those who post there. He knows where each poster is posting from. If someone is posting from Netvocates or Gov't location, he would know this at once.
3) People like "Mr. Jones" and "Tenderflower" are allowed to make apparently unlimited posts. These people spam the board with shit. Loads of irrelevant, assinine comments and links that no doubt give the impression to outsiders that the "chemtrails people" are total looneys. Maybe Mr. Jones is simply a bored man with nothing better to do with his time than spam CTC. But if Thermit really wanted to bring credibility to the subject of chemtrails, why would he allow Jones to turn the entire board into a "conspiracy theorists' paradise?" Also, note Mr. Jones comment to my "I'm leaving CTC too." Quite an attack, I must say.
4) Has anyone noticed how the debunkers, spooks, trolls, paid trolls, consistently attack the chemtrails boards, yet don't bother to ridicule those who post about ghosts, or Loch Ness, or Bigfoot, or UFOs from outer space, etc.
Why would someone be willing to pay money to debunk those who want to bring attention to chemtrails?
I think CTC is a bogus site. I suspect that "Thermit" isn't stupid, only corrupt.
may41970@yahoo.com
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jul 8, 2006 11:21:51 GMT -5
Well, Of course we would be suspicious of anyone coming from CTC, but you seem to be credible. All of the mods went off and created new sites, and Gastro just happened to be there already, so it became an alternative to CTC, but with a wider scope, and careful monitoring. So, don't hesitate to voice your opinion. I wasn't talking about banning you, but any trolls, disruptors, or debunkers.
Nothing else needs to be said.
We have known this for a long while. Amazing what uncreative types do with their time and our money.
As much as I go to CTC now, I didn't really get the impression from them like that. Perhaps you have been following the board more closely, and notice it more. 9/11 is tied into chemtrails, through Oil company induced and accelerated Global Warming and War Profits. I don't follow UFO's too closely, but believe they exist, either Inter-Dimensional, Extra-terrestrial, or Human Made. So, to me "Conspiracy Theories" belong right along with Aerosol Mitigation. The only other choice is "Coincidence Theories"
We used to have someone called "Julian Penrod". His address is an empty lot in West Caldwell, NJ. I always thought he was Gov. Penrod was a total crackpot, and was poisoning the well. Then there was Jim Phelps. This guy was taking credit for inventing everything from Fire to HAARP. Total looney. Then the 100 or so disguises of Jason. More Psyops. The only "debunkers" I actually semi-got along with was theseeker and B1BLancer. Every other one was and is potential think tank goonery.
I agree 100%. I have always said this. The UFO movement was hijacked in a similar fashion by "debunkers" because there is truth in it, and the government is involved. Ghosts are nothing the government is worried about, unless they intend on building a Ghost Army to fight in the Middle East. CTC is about a corrupt site as you can get. The design was to discredit and confuse the search for the Truth behind Aerosol Mitigation and Geo-Engineering. As far as Thermit, he just has too many sites to maintain. Maybe he was leaned on by the Goon Squad, or maybe he always was an agent provocateur
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Post by David on Jul 8, 2006 11:26:49 GMT -5
Since the departure of the mod team and Thermits 'open the door and let em in' policy, CTC has lost it's validity as a chemtrail research/information sharing site.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jul 8, 2006 11:33:23 GMT -5
Since the departure of the mod team and Thermits 'open the door and let em in' policy, CTC has lost it's validity as a chemtrail research/information sharing site. David, you were on CTC even before me, Mech, and Increase1776. When Lulu came as moderator is when it lost it's credibility. Now it is a sad and dangerous place, much like driving through the South Bronx. |
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Post by socrates on Jul 8, 2006 15:41:54 GMT -5
...Although FUI happily returned to CTC, I still have no intention to. Maybe I sound extreme here, but I think the entire site is bogus... may41970 Hi, it's me. I am out of there also. I left a post yesterday saying that the remaining "pilot" who survived the recent bannings was also a troll. Then it turns out he got banned. I don't even want to keep talking about this. It's just more of those Reynolds rabbit hole tactics. Hello Gastronamus Cafe. |
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jul 8, 2006 16:19:30 GMT -5
Ahoy Socrates/FUI, We won't make you drink Hemlock here  Chemtrails/Aerosol Mitigation/Geo-Engineering is one of many Ops being carried out by these Rednecks/Suits/Fundies, and looking forward to your observations. |
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Post by may41970 on Jul 8, 2006 17:08:14 GMT -5
Swampgas,
Thanks for the comments. It's a real pleasure to find what appears to be a totally credible chemtrails forum. I hope more people discover it....real people, that is. :-)
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Socrates (FUI),
Hello again and welcome! I've read most of your recent posts over at CTC, as you're one of the few people over there that has something meaningful to say (as well as Louis A. - who's already a member here).
I really owe you a big thanks; if not for you, I probably would have never discovered Gastronamus.
may
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Post by socrates on Jul 8, 2006 22:08:59 GMT -5
Thanks May and Swampgas. It's feeling better by the minute to be done posting there. It is obvious something is wrong with the place, since all these thoughtful people wouldn't have bailed out if their concerns had no merit. You can't allow trolls and strawmen to run amok. Huffington Post is a joke for the very same reason. I think these websites think the masses love inane bickering in forums over anything too close to the truth. They think it is better for the site meters. They are mistaken. Integrity can be lost very easily. Big ratings can dwindle.
I'm hoping Paul Moyer and many more reporters come out and continue to expose the aerosol operations. Planes should not be able to completely fill up blue skies with "contrails" that don't dissipate as one would think water vapour would. But we all know this. We don't go to "chemtrail" forums to listen to fake pilots scream at us and try to incite violence when all we want is peace and the return of natural skies.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Jul 8, 2006 23:22:06 GMT -5
That's why we created a forum where we can at least be civil with disagreements, and perhaps learn from the opposite POV. That's normal, but when it comes to aerosols and 9/11, it seems like the Think Tanks are pumping out Robots faster than Italian Ice getting sold in Newark on a Hot and Humid August Night.
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