The Doors

[Swamp Gas]

Thanks to marklookingup for bringing up the fact we forgot The Doors.

OK, back in 1966-67, when I was first playing in bands, along comes "Light My Fire". As a keyboardist, the intro to that was challenging. I only knew one other person who could play that, my cousin, who was 10 years older than me, and was the keyboardist in The Cyrkle for awhile (Turn Down Day, Red Rubber Ball). I finally learned it correctly.

Then they released "Strange Days" in October 1967. The title song had Beaver of Beaver and Krause playing an early synthesizer, perhaps the first time in pop music.

I saw them three times...Once in 1967 in Asbury Park, again in 1968 in Asbury, and the Madison Square Garden show in January 1969.

In 1980, living in Los Angeles, a singer and I started a Doors Tribute band called Strange Daze. We were together in that incarnation for three years, we did quite well, toured all over, and even opened Phoenix Coliseum to 20,000 people for groups like Molly Hatchet, UFO, Steve Vai, and Chick Corea. The band still exists after various changes to this day know as "Wild Child" now.

Here are my favorite Doors albums, descending order top to bottom:

[Bhang]

The controversial Ed Sullivan appearance.
video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-5233010455472634779

[Swamp Gas]

that was hilrious..All of us young hipsters were watching it at the time, and he said the word "HIGHER"

[marklookingup]

Swamp,

Just curious, have you read "No One Here Gets Out Alive"?

[Swamp Gas]

marklookingup said:

Swamp,

Just curious, have you read "No One Here Gets Out Alive"?

Not only did I read it, but Danny Sugarman used to hang out with Strange Daze. He was especially drunk at the Sweetwater gig in Redondo Beach, and I had to prop him up. Not a very nice person.

[madcitizen]

Album: The Doors (original)
The song: "Back Door Man"

Yeah!..

[marklookingup]

Swamp,

Back in the 90's, KISW-FM 99.9, in Seattle, broadcast the "20th Anniversary Tribute to the DOORS", which I taped and played it at construction jobsites all over Kitsap County, to the point I had to lock my truck to keep others from ejecting it and throwing it in the trash. I still play it once in a while.

I saw the Doors in Seattle, but the details are kind of fuzzy. I heard it was an outstanding show!

I've heard of STRANGE DAYS; did you ever make it up to Seattle?

[Swamp Gas]

marklookingup said:

I've heard of STRANGE DAYS; did you ever make it up to Seattle?

no, the most north was Reno, San Francisco, Sacramento, and went all the way back East, as well as down south, Chicago, Milwaukee, Fargo, etc.

there are a few records left of Strange Daze, besides the stuff we still have

www.crystal-ship.com/albums.php?act=viewalb&albumId=468

brentmundy.com/ronredifer/tours.htm

[socrates]

I read No One Gets Out of Here Alive a long time ago. I remember it was a good read.

I also had a tape cassette (remember those?) of The Doors from after Morrison had died. I remember that it had quite the spiritual slant to it, and of course, less of that rough, dramatic Morrison dark philosophy material.

One of my favourite bands now is Audio Slave. It has the band from Rage Against the Machine with the singer from correct me if I'm wrong, Stone Temple Pilots.

I am also of the opinion that the most important band of this era has to be TOOL. The lead singer was in the military. He has one song called Lie, Cheat, and Steal or if that isn't the title, Maynard sings that line. All members of the military have to take the pledge that they won't lie, cheat, or steal. So it is his way of pointing out the hypocrisy of our military.

I also heard that TOOL refuses to go on commercial television. If they have done so, this has been a very rare occurence. Maynard has tried very hard not to become a sellout. I nominate TOOL as the best band of this era.

[marklookingup]

Socrates,

You're talking about Chris Cornell.

My daughter cohabitated with Ben Shepard, here in Kitsap County, while he was the base player for Soundgarden. That was cool, as we got VIP passes to the concerts we attended. I was sorry when they split up. Matt Cameron went on to drum for Pearl Jam.

[socrates]

Hi Mark, thanks a lot. I knew I was wrong but wanted to mention Audio Slave. Soundgarden was my favourite, spoonman, black hole sun. Stone Temple Pilots I liked with highway love song. Curt cobain I liked, same age as me I think, and didn't care what the audience thought, it was about the art, like Andy Kaufman, Tool, etc.

Radiohead wasn't too shabby, Creep was a good one and then that breaththrough album. Smashing Pumpkins weren't too shabby. System of the down(ed?) sounds good to me too. Bring your own bombs- their anti-war song is awesome.

I think someone mentioned they didn't appreciate GreenDay, I can see their point, but I like that song don't want to be an american idiot. I did like the Pogues too, early Elvis Costello, early REM. Don't go back to Scarsdale, yeah, ok, happy birthday to everyone like Lou said!

Alice in Chains too, some Chili Peppers, Rage against the machine, throw in some Marley, Floyd, and that's pretty much where I stand on music. I realise no body asked so I apologize for spilling my music guts.

[Swamp Gas]

All these bands are good, but of course my favorite is Noble Gas.

However, the ones who constantly get in trouble with sensors and always push the sonic envelope there's....Negativland

noble-gas.com/freedomwaiting.mp3

Copied from other posts here.

The first "Political" sampling group. Hilarious stuff, and downright scary at times. Always getting in trouble. In the early 90's, they did a parody of U2's "Still haven't found what I'm looking for", complete with an album called U2. they put the name of the CD, U2, as the larger text on the cover (usually, the name of the group is larger). U2's lawyers sued them for $10 million, and wanted all the masters. It cost Negativland $100,000 in lawyers, and they lost. However, The Edge didn't even know about it, and was pissed. He gave Negativland back the masters, and it still sells, and the group still puts out material. We have seen them 3 times, and it is interesting, to say the least.

www.negativland.com/

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Re: Negativland
« Reply #1 on Feb 21, 2004, 1:34am »
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These fellows were way ahead of there time with songs like 'Car Bomb' and 'Guns'. They have put out a wealth of material, but what really put them on the map was 'U2'. They took one of the band, U2's songs, 'I haven't found what I'm Looking for' and totally bent it out of shape in there own special way. They also used the name U2 on the cover. It sent the legal world in to a tale spin. Mostly it was the lawyers of U2's band and not the band members who had a problem with it. They racked them over the coals. But Negativland brought out the philosphy that information and sampling should remain free, to be used by musicians like a piano sound or a trumphet sound that can not be copyrighted.

At first they had to pull all of copies of U2, which we were able to get one. And then after much money spent and time they did get there rights back for that album. Have to give these guys alot of credit. Very unique group of pioneers,with a great sense of humor.



www.negativland.com/mashin/release.htm


Extremely Rare and typically controversial. These guys are the electronic Guerilla Collage version of Marilyn Manson.


Download WMV (Copy URL into Windows Media Player if it does not stream)


The Mashin of the Christ

[marklookingup]

"Loosing My Religion" is great.
"Nevermind"- it doesn't get much better than that.
Nirvava "Unplugged"- WOW

[Swamp Gas]

I never thought that much about Nirvana until I was in the dentist's chair one day, and they were playing a bunch of their stuff. I was surprised that it was not typical "alternative" music, of which I found most downright boring. Niirvana had a different edge, and it was somewhat calming, as well as urgent, much like some of the 80s material


Back to The Doors. We had all three of the remaining Doors come to one gig at the Country Club in Los Angeles. They thoroughly enjoyed it

Some of the bands we played with...

Molly Hatchet....All AHoles. Drunks, Macho, overweight, over-rated, and stole some of our wires.

Chick Corea.....talented individual, but weird. not very friedly. Viroslav Virtuos (Bass) Very nice person...Roy Haynes )Drums) what can be said? He is an absolute gentlemen and a riot. He has been playing since 1939

UFO...What a great bunch of guys. Very humble, as I was showing the keyboardist some licks during setup. We partied with them afterwards.

I have a bootleg of the 1969 MSG gig in New York. I'll dig it up, and post it soon.

[chickenlittle]

I remember when I first heard Pearl Jam I thought they sucked and now I have really come to be a fan of the music also the song you spoke of above I didnt know who did it but I have heard a few times here and there and I relly love it,
"Black Hole Sun"and now that I am an old musician and not as COOL as I once was (I should know better)but I was singing along nice and loud (of course)Black old sun,what a moran I am???
take care all
chicky

[kola]

growing up in the sixtes, I have to say The Beatles did it for me, from their early years till the end and then some..they changed my life. wow!

Kola

[IndigoStarseed7]

chickenlittle said:

I remember when I first heard Pearl Jam I thought they sucked and now I have really come to be a fan of the music also the song you spoke of above I didnt know who did it but I have heard a few times here and there and I relly love it,
"Black Hole Sun"and now that I am an old musician and not as COOL as I once was (I should know better)but I was singing along nice and loud (of course)Black old sun,what a moran I am???
take care all
chicky

Collective Soul sings "Black Hole Sun." They've got a bunch of good songs. Some are more commercial than I care for, but the words are all very deep. ;D