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Post by socrates on Nov 27, 2006 22:21:37 GMT -5
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 27, 2006 22:22:09 GMT -5
This link to... www.bariumblues.com/blue_cross.htm... poses some thoughts on Chemtrail subliminal and why we are being so heavily saturated with images of them through television programming / people programming if you ask me. __________________________________________________ That's odd, that link works fine if I put it in an e-mail, why isn't it working when I post it here, strange. Trying again from the e-mail link that does work from here.... www.bariumblues.com/blue_cross.htm Jim Mathers, gee I haven't seen or heard from him in a long time, he moved to the west coast last I heard, he use to take some good pics of the spraying and post them at...... www.deepspace4.com/pages/main/pagemain.htm______________________________________________
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Post by socrates on Nov 27, 2006 22:33:09 GMT -5
Hey Lou, small world, thanks for that website address which hosts your Neighbor's pictures. It said I could post anything from there as long as I gave credit. I wasn't sure if he was from deepspace4.com or not.
Today the sprayers only had to work a half day. Lucky them. They had the 10-3 shift to connect to the incoming clouds. It was a nice stretch without them until about four days ago, even though it was still overcast nearly every day or raining, but now they are back in "plane sight". They stink. Somehow I now only like the rain, because otherwise there is a good chance of seeing those sulfur devils going at it. Perhaps I long for the better days I had in beautiful Ireland where it rains half the time.
But hey, the red sox won the world series. The curse of the bambino is over. That's what really matters. {sarcasm}
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Post by socrates on Nov 27, 2006 22:40:56 GMT -5
posted by chickenlittle: "This is a bit off the subject but the slow infiltration is shown in this: A school in Texas now uses finger print scan for school lunches for very small children up,I find it very scarey that it is associated with no finger print no food sort of situation.
This is truely just the beginning of programming kids to think it is regular business as usual. I am glad I homeschool my kids." chicky
I agree with you. It's like they have a fifty year plan. Beat us adults down into cynicism, then when the yuggins take over, they won't even know what the skies looked like before 1997 let alone what true freedom is.
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 27, 2006 22:44:03 GMT -5
Socrates,
What's with the pics you posted, I can't open them, all I see is a small box with [image] in it and an "x" in what appears to be a check box to the laft of it, I have tried my menu "Open picture" and nothing.
Jim Mathers photos are ok, it the others that I can't bring up for some reason, is it me, don't know, there seems to be a lot of weardness going on tonight with the computer, it's very slow and sluggish, dammed NSA, FBI, Chenny, Bush, get the hell out of my box !
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Post by socrates on Nov 27, 2006 22:54:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the story on the subliminals Lou. Nice find. From that link,
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 27, 2006 22:55:22 GMT -5
"But hey, the red sox won the world series. The curse of the bambino is over. That's what really matters." {sarcasm} _____________________________________________________
Ah Hu,..... and how many years did it take the Red Sox to win that World Series,...................Hmmmmm,.............Oh yeah, only 86 years, I can't help but wonder how many more years it will be until they win another one. {sarcasm}
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Post by socrates on Nov 27, 2006 22:59:50 GMT -5
Hey Lou, I've been posting then going back and editing. Sorry for any inconvenience. They should be working now. I even edited some from way before, got rid of some of the bad pics. I tried to copy the clear channel billboard here, but CTC or my comp wouldn't allow it. That's what also stinks about chemtrail forums, how links can get lost, then anyone reading might wonder wtf, that would have been nice to look at, where did it go?
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Post by socrates on Nov 27, 2006 23:11:01 GMT -5
They are going after the Japanese whiz kid. They'll be ok.
I think the Celtics won the 60s and the Patriots reached Dynasty status. No complaints here, although I hate hockey.
I like hockey, I hate the NHL and the Bruins, their cheap owner. I hate how Cam Neely got his knee crushed by a hack, Ulf Samuelson.
I go with basketball, I remember a bit of Hondo then Cowens, Tiny, Cornbread, I loved Reggie Lewis. He was a great guy. Always humble and gave out free turkeys to the homeless.
Basketball any of us can play. Baseball is ok, but it is corrupt, who are we kidding, too much inequality. Football, these guys are walking off with concussions, broken arms, it is brutal.
Hey Chicky, anyone, feel free to say whatever you want. I just did.
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 27, 2006 23:56:25 GMT -5
To me, football is the only sport worth watching, when was the last time that you saw a kick ass rock & roll show at halftime with rocken Randolph Hank Williams, Jr. during a baseball game, basketball game, Hockey game, they don't have any of those great, drop dead gorgeous cheerleaders just to give the game a little extra sing, and action, there isn't another sport made that has the action that smashmouth football has, I grew up in the steel curtan days, watching the Vikings, Bears, Browns, Green Bay, Buffalo Bills, KC, Rams, San Francisco 49ers and the rest, man those were the days of some great football, been hooked ever since.
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 28, 2006 0:06:50 GMT -5
Socrates wrote,
"Thanks for the story on the subliminals Lou. Nice find. From that link," _____________________________________________________
I had remembered seeing it a while back and thought it would add some more insight to this discussion on the Chemtrail subliminals.
Back at CTC there was some discussion of how they where using subliminals to condition us to except the Chemtrail's as just normal so it's nothing new, just new discussion on it and that a good thing, keeping it active so people are aware of the bullshit going on. I figure that's why we are here.
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Post by socrates on Nov 28, 2006 0:13:17 GMT -5
I like watching classic ESPN, learning about guys like Vince Lombardi. So you like smashmouth, a bunch of us are calling for the Patriots/Cowboys for the Super Bowl. I think the Tuna is happy to finally have a decent quarterback. Remember when Bledsoe got into that Pittsburgh playoff game when Brady was hurt, the first super bowl. Bledsoe chucked the ball facing away over his back. Tom Brady is that one in a million, a natural, and you gotta like our chances with the defense. Bruschi, Vrabel, and Seymour are as good as they get. Assante stepped up with three picks. Belichick is a genius. A democrat too I might add. How 'bout Troy Brown, talking old school, he's playing both sides of the ball. And Flutie did that drop kick last year, Belichick actually smiled. He is like Auerbach. Looking at the Patriot's tough history, this is incredible. Tuna versus Belichick? Hey, you're right about the half time shows. Marvin Gaye went nuts at a basketball game once, and I think Jose Feliciano at a baseball game, but you knew when McCartney sung Freedom and U2 sang It's a Beautiful Day and our team is called THE PATRIOTS, it's right after 9/11, the Pats come out as a TEAM, you knew we had it, we made that west coast St. Louis Rams look soft.
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Post by socrates on Nov 28, 2006 0:14:54 GMT -5
I'm not trying to sound pompous, but I hope people can find us and not just stop off at CTC and be hoodwinked.
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 28, 2006 0:34:23 GMT -5
Re: 'I'm not trying to sound pompous, but I hope people can find us and not just stop off at CTC and be hoodwinked". __________________________________________
Na, that's a valid point that's why I go and post once in awhile back at CTC, just to remind folks that it was once a Chemtrail site and that issue is still alive and well, I drop a shameless plug or two for Gastro as well, since all the mods at CTC came here after the revolt at CTC gradually the hits have been picking up here, now there are lots of lurkers out there watching us, their scared of us, they should be !
This is it for me tonight, I've got to go to bed, later Soc.
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Post by BigBunny on Nov 28, 2006 9:51:52 GMT -5
I've purposely refrained from saying anything until this point. The subliminal programming we are witnessing is in every aspect of the visual media to the point that most people have been conditioned to accept as normal these monstrous lines in our skies. Not only do you see it in advertising but also in video games where the player is being induced to believe that the fantasy is an extension of the player's reality. Further not only do you see the CTs in news broadcasts but also in alleged "dramas" which are filmed on location such as Law and Order or the CSI "dramas".
I note that Chicky has reminded us of how the young are brainwashed as well. But the methodology extends beyond the young. Increasingly people are turning to television and other forms of electronic media to escape the real and imagined terrors of their daily lives. It is no longer purely entertainment/escapism. There is now a genuine need to flee the real world at least for a couple of hours each day. To assist these flights of fancy we have all these wonderful examples of overpriced consumer technology such as plasma TVs. But all the latest technology does achieve is to reinforce the belief that what you see is as it should be (in crystal clear digital vision).
I note that there was a reference previously in this thread to trails in older films. This is quite true but they were genuine contrails, not the examples of frankenstein science we see today. However I wonder whether older films which are later digitized are changed in any regard from the original.
And you must remember that this subliminal propaganda is also exported around the World through various forms of media. The propaganda is not limited to first world nations alone but it is encouraged in second and third world nations as well.
Now there is something which you need to understand: TPTB do not need to legalize the CTs. You will be told that this is because the persistent trails that aircraft leave now are an example of how polluted our atmosphere has become. You will be told that the aircraft of today produce cleaner emissions than ever before but the atmosphere has been polluted by industry and automobiles. Therefore the "clean" aircraft emissions do not mix with the rest of the emissions present initially and when they do, you get "whiteouts". Of course this is not true but it is an example of how the story is sold. Those who persist with this legalization issue clearly do not understand the ways of this New World into which we have been thrust.
A further extension to this propaganda, depending upon the country in which you live, is who is to blame for this phenomenon. The U.S. seems to be a favourite some of the time but also India and China are becoming pariahs as well.
Unfortunately there is no simple way of escaping this subliminal programming. However while there are people like us who continue to challenge the "reality" that TPTB have created, there remains a probability that in time the pendulum will begin to swing in our favour.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Nov 28, 2006 10:30:20 GMT -5
Bunny, This escapism and programming goes even beyond Aerosols. Look at military and violent progaganda: www.thread.co.nz/article/1864Fashion joins the militaryThis winter, military chic is in again. I was a bit troubled by the military fashion looks of a few years ago during the conflict in the Middle East. The irony of hundreds of anti-war protesters marching in combats wasn’t lost on the fashion polizia. Some people considered designer labels such as Versace and Gucci charging thousands of dollars for clothes that mirrored garments their sons were dying in, simply tasteless. Combat trousers entered the fashion psyche as the ubiquitous uniform for the People’s Army. Kiwi girls could get the tres cute Max ones and those with US defense-sized budgets could splash out on Chloe’s combats for the price of my first car. Proving that khaki is indeed, equal to a car key… But this time around, military fashion is quite different. Gone are the soldier camouflage looks; the fashion soldier has moved up the ranks to officer class. The fashion soldier has absconded the US Army leaving the ill-fitting fatiques of Uncle Sam behind for the cool Russian front. The Cold War should have been fought in these clothes. Russian trends for this season influenced the new military look, with fur trimmings, long leather boots, great coats with shiny brass buttons and epaulettes on shoulders. Here in New Zealand some of our local designers are embracing military looks this season. From the top labels like Trelise Cooper, Starfish, Barbara Lee, Annah S, Marilyn Seyb and others right down to the chain stores, fashionistas are being drafted for service to their country. What are the key looks to watch out for with your Standard Issue binoculars, then? The key is a buttoned-up, almost hard profile, with fitted coats and jackets in sombre tones and lots of black. You must have heard by now that black is the new black this winter? How can I look good in Military fashion? Make sure it is a fitted style and the cut emphasises the waist. Watch proportion of jackets and buy detailing such as shiny buttons, shoulder epaulettes, buckles and badges pinned on lapels. Be a spy for Soviet-inspired styles. Accessorize with belts and bags with brass studs and buckles; in fact the studded belt is making a comeback. An army marches on its feet...and military trends have invaded footwear trends too. Look out for low-heeled boots with rounded toes rather than last season's pointy toes. A strong feature is chunky detailing such as buckles and even belts on the top of the boots. Sadly many of the new boot styles are mid-calf in length which is actually a really unflattering length on many women. So take your time and look in the mirror wearing the skirt length that you will be mostly wearing with the boots. If the boot fits, wear it. The question remains, does military fashion normalize warfare, making acceptable bomber jackets and combat pants so it's commonplace in the streets? Are military garments better worn by soldiers not by models?
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 28, 2006 10:47:26 GMT -5
BigBunny wrote,
...Snip....
"Unfortunately there is no simple way of escaping this subliminal programming. However while there are people like us who continue to challenge the "reality" that TPTB have created, there remains a probability that in time the pendulum will begin to swing in our favour." __________________________________________________
BigBunny,
Well put.
I'm in total agreement with everything that you stated in your above post and the quote at the end, your exactly right on the money.
Awareness is our best weapon against their programs of spraying and mental conditioning, we very much need to keep making noise about this Chemtrail spraying issue and all of it's trappings.
Swampgas is correct also, it's just not just a matter of the spraying that we are being conditioned to, it's the whole dammed corrupt stinking system and the sick fanatics that are behind it that we need to be aware of and expose whenever possible.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Nov 28, 2006 12:20:05 GMT -5
Two other cultures that subtle propaganda became the social norm:
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Post by socrates on Nov 28, 2006 14:29:50 GMT -5
posted by Lou: "What's with the pics you posted, I can't open them, all I see is a small box with [image] in it and an "x" in what appears to be a check box to the left of it, I have tried my menu "Open picture" and nothing..."
Hey Lou, they were showing up yesterday after I fixed them, but you are right, they are not showing up. It makes me wonder if some alphabet company doesn't want good threads at chemtrail forums.
Maybe Swamp or Arcadia have an idea about this, why photos would show up and then they don't. But I'll go back and see if I can come up with some new images to fill in the void.
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Post by Swamp Gas on Nov 28, 2006 14:42:33 GMT -5
posted by Lou: "What's with the pics you posted, I can't open them, all I see is a small box with [image] in it and an "x" in what appears to be a check box to the left of it, I have tried my menu "Open picture" and nothing..." Hey Lou, they were showing up yesterday after I fixed them, but you are right, they are not showing up. It makes me wonder if some alphabet company doesn't want good threads at chemtrail forums. Maybe Swamp or Arcadia have an idea about this, why photos would show up and then they don't. But I'll go back and see if I can come up with some new images to fill in the void. These are read only files from the original link. If you copy image address, and open in new page, it will show, but that is as far as it goes. What I do is copy, and post on Noble Gas site for these types of files. You might consider getting your own site for $5-10 a month, with 1-5gb of space, and you can post to your heart's content. It can be just an FTp if you don't want to set up an access site. It is usually $5-10 a year for a domain name
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Post by socrates on Nov 28, 2006 15:06:05 GMT -5
Thanks Swampgas, the only thing I don't understand is why will they show up at all here on the message board, yet then they mysteriously disappear?
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Post by socrates on Nov 28, 2006 15:15:32 GMT -5
I like how Big Bunny leaves open the probability that truth will win out. I also appreciate the propaganda pictures, how they were tied in with Chicky's post. Also, I think the models tied in with fascism backs up the very good point Lophofo made about the Saks Fifth avenue ads, that we are being led to believe that ugly is really beautiful.
This is Bizarro World 101.
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 28, 2006 16:33:45 GMT -5
"I like how Big Bunny leaves open the probability that truth will win out. I also appreciate the propaganda pictures, how they were tied in with Chicky's post. Also, I think the models tied in with fascism backs up the very good point Lophofo made about the Saks Fifth avenue ads, that we are being led to believe that ugly is really beautiful."
""This is Bizarro World 101."" _______________________________________________________________
BigBunny is correct, truth does always win out over deception but there is usually a good deal of pain, suffering and death involved with any "truth" seeking struggle because of those who do not want the truth revealed, sometimes at any cost, I fully believe that the Chemtrail issue is one of those times and the people responsible for it are extremely ruthless in their efforts to keep the project(s) protected and viable.
Bizarro World for sure because they are getting away with it_for now but more and more people are beginning to realize that they are being lied to and they are ignoring the liars and are coming to the truth of it.
Things can not remain as they are, changes in the structure of how we are governed must be made and the kind of people that we allow to become dictators rather than leaders must change, at present there are to many powerful influences on government that are causing the neglect of the peoples voices to be heard, let alone acted upon, our representatives (oxymoron) sell us out at every turn because they are wined, dinned and bribed by the big money lobby's, we allegedly have separation of Church and State, what we really need is separation of big business and State.
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Post by chickenlittle on Nov 29, 2006 9:30:01 GMT -5
Another weird ass sky commercial: Papa Murheys pizza now why even show the sky at all? ? This just goes to show you that it is being used even OUT OF CONTEXT!!!!! chicky
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Post by socrates on Nov 29, 2006 16:41:58 GMT -5
Hey Chicky, I don't doubt it. And it stinks that when we see something on tv like this, we can't even post it. Or we'll find something, post it, and then at some point it disappears unless we go the Swampgas route and host our own images. I found a few more ads that seem to turn blue into the milky white. I don't know if this is all a coincidence. When people talk about project mockingbird, I never understand how such a thing could be gotten away with. I mean, I might look fairly foolish here myself reading too much into the colour schemes of these ads. Like, how could such a subliminal program be implemented? How would advertising creators be led to create such imagery? Yikes, I might have to ban myself from this thread if I'm going to debunk myself.
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Post by lophofo on Nov 30, 2006 6:43:30 GMT -5
I had one other thought about why these subliminals are being slipped in unnoticed, as Big Bunny stated, to conditionalize us that they are normal. You know how you can tell if something is dated, like a movie or tv series episode? You know, like the famous line of, "Here's a quarter. Go call someone who cares!" Well, that was back when pay phones were only a quarter. Then, they went to $0.35 and then $0.50. Now, everyone is using cell phones to call or text someone who cares. So, the line now may be like, "Here's a cell phone. Go text someone who cares!" But that definitely dates that media to a time frame.
If they can put chemtrails into movies, video games, advertisements, and slip them in without the notice from the general public, then they are actually creating history. What I mean is there is now physical evidence of their existence. And if someone tries to, at a later time, point out the existence of these chemtrails, then one can always point back to these pieces of history where they existed before most people's awareness as if to say, "See. Look! They've always been around." Even though at that time, they were being done under people's noses without most noticing.
So, if you can make something a part of history, while subliminally conditioning the public, then later on when looking back at the past,when they didn't know this was going on, the public will say that it was normally like that.
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Post by altitudelou on Nov 30, 2006 13:02:13 GMT -5
Back at CTC this question was brought up, whether or not they might try and doctor up the old movies with Chemtrail's, which is entirely possible, I put nothing past these A-holes but there are so many movie buffs that I don't think they could get away with it, people would be screaming at the top of their lungs, "What the HELL is going on", people who have seen their favorite old movies over and over, who knows how many times, they would surely notice the addition of so called contrail's / Chemtrail's into the movies background, the bad guy's could not get away with it for very long before being discovered.
They are coming at the public the most through the medium of television, the adds are obvious but virtually all made for TV movies have many scenes in them now that are loaded with contrail's / Chemtrail's, you can hardly watch a news segment shot outdoors now without seeing the sky streaked with contrail's / Chemtrail's, they are pervading just about every aspect of television today, obviously in an effort to condition the public to accept the contrail's / Chemtrail's saturated sky's as normal and it's being done on a massive scale.
We are fighting on two fronts as it were, we are fighting to bring awareness of the very real everyday spraying that we are seeing taking place while fighting against their national and international mental conditioning program, slowly we are gaining more people that have seen the truth of just what is being done to them, not only in our sky's but in our homes as we watch our televisions, people are not buying their side of it anymore, they are loosing ground fast, we need to keep the pressure on them with shear numbers, that will eventually bring them down one way or the other.
A few people are just a bunch of fringe lunatics, a few million people are a revolution !
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Post by Swamp Gas on Nov 30, 2006 14:54:35 GMT -5
What movies currently released on DVD has Chem skies in them that were released on VHS back in the 80s? I still have old movies on VHS, so I would be surious to see a difference
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Post by altitudelou on Dec 1, 2006 23:21:32 GMT -5
Was that for me Swampgas, sorry, daydreaming of blue sky's !
Any movie made say, up until the mid 1980's should be Chemtail free, after that, especially from the mid 1990's on there full of the Chems.
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Post by marklookingup on Dec 2, 2006 22:32:24 GMT -5
I happened to view an old VCR tape that I made a while back, and luckily, I didn't edit out the commercials. Not a trace of any of the bullshit in the skies. I'm going to look at the rest of my collection soon.
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